Thread: light force ??

Originally Posted by BradM

Good shot of the Hella's on the ECB alloy bar, I have the same one. I am currently running Cibie Oscars and in my humble opinion they are cr..p compared to the Hella 4000's that I used to run on the GQ Patrol I had.

The next time another bulb blows in these useless Cibie's they are going in the bin and I am going to fit up those good looking Hella's on my ECB as well.

BradM

What I found Brad was that you can't mount the Hella's on the original tabs for spotlights on the ECB bar - the lights will be way too high. So I cut the tabs off and polished back to the original bar - you can't see where they were now.

Then I found that if you mount the Hella's on the main channel of the bar, they are about 3/4 inch too low. I have made up a couple of aluminium pedestals to get the right height. Mounting bolt of the Hella bolts through centre of pedestal, and then the pedestal bolts separately to the main channel of the bar.

Also, if you want to get some real performance out of the Rally 4000's when you fit them, get hold of an after-market HID conversion kit and install this at the same time. I've got Predators on the Disco, but also have a set of 4000's with Chinese import HID conversion kits in them that I had on the Prado up until I quit my job last month. Apart from taking slightly longer (almost un-noticeable) to glow back up to full strength after you have had them off / dipped for a while than the Predators do, the converted 4000's put out just as good a light as the Predators for a fraction of the cost. After all, they are the same body, lens and reflector.

Originally Posted by mcrover

Unless your going to get them really cheap, I wouldnt bother.

They are a good light but not the best, they have a very weak mounting that breaks very easilly and most models dont fit inside My TJM bullbar and Ive seen them hanging off the front of ARB bars as well which makes them easilly damaged.

A mate of mine had them on his Hilux and every time we went out he would break the mounts, sometimes from just corregations.

Other mates have had them and said they are no better than Hella's or Narva's.

It's just one of those personal choises really I think but Im happy with the Hellas that came with my Disco, They rarely go out of adjustment unless I hit something and they always work and touch wood i havnt broken one yet.

RUBBISH
I know lots of guys running them and if they are installed correctly they dont break.
If they are crap then can you tell me why 90% of the Comp guys run them and why alot of guys in Rallying use them........ ohh thats right rally cars dont vibrate or get a rough time....

They are one of the best lights on the market.

Originally Posted by sclarke

RUBBISH
I know lots of guys running them and if they are installed correctly they dont break.
If they are crap then can you tell me why 90% of the Comp guys run them and why alot of guys in Rallying use them........ ohh thats right rally cars dont vibrate or get a rough time....

They are one of the best lights on the market.

Righto Clarkie, thats your opinion and obviously the opinion of some comp guys.

As stated, I run Hella's (as do/did most comp vehicals when I last bought lights )and I know a few people who havnt been happy with their Light Force crap.

You say if they are installed properly, well the Hilux I described had them mounted by a Light Force distributor who sponserd his truck for ute shows and nav run stuff.

Your back into one of your moods where you just have to disagree with anything I say, Good on ya but as you have said to me on a few occasions, it is getting a bit tiresome.

One of my mates at work has a couple of Lightforce 240's on his bullbar and
a couple of 170's on the front of his roof rack on a D1. He reckons they are fantastic lights, but as I have had no experience with them I cannot comment.

I have heard of people for them and against, each to their own I say

Here is my setup, They were on the Disco when I bought it. 2 X IPF M type Rally's 130W spread (upper) and 2 X Cibie super Oscars 100W pencil beams (lower). The only problem I have had is after hitting an owl, I had to replace the clear covers for both sets. (broke 1 of each). Didn't do the owl much good either



I am a fan of Hella lights and would love some predators, but even at my cost they are still too expensive IMHO. I haven't been impressed by the IPF's by themselves, but in combination with the Cibie's I am happy with what I can see on a country road, beach, track etc.

Originally Posted by Phil633

One of my mates at work has a couple of Lightforce 240's on his bullbar and
a couple of 170's on the front of his roof rack on a D1. He reckons they are fantastic lights, but as I have had no experience with them I cannot comment.

I have heard of people for them and against, each to their own I say

Here is my setup, They were on the Disco when I bought it. 2 X IPF M type Rally's 130W spread (upper) and 2 X Cibie super Oscars 100W pencil beams (lower). The only problem I have had is after hitting an owl, I had to replace the clear covers for both sets. (broke 1 of each). Didn't do the owl much good either



I am a fan of Hella lights and would love some predators, but even at my cost they are still too expensive IMHO. I haven't been impressed by the IPF's by themselves, but in combination with the Cibie's I am happy with what I can see on a country road, beach, track etc.

yhea baby thats what im after some pic's so i can get a few idea's
l'm likeing the set up on the truck in the new gold edition of 4wd action that what i would really like to do

cheers mate

ps nice set up gota love the lights

The only thing that you need to consider when mounting lights on top of the bull bar is that it makes the vehical unroadworthy and may cop a fine in some states as does in the roof rack.

Not that it stops anyone but I just thought i'd bring it up.

You can see mine in my Avatar...

Originally Posted by mcrover

The only thing that you need to consider when mounting lights on top of the bull bar is that it makes the vehical unroadworthy and may cop a fine in some states as does in the roof rack.

Not that it stops anyone but I just thought i'd bring it up.

You can see mine in my Avatar...

up here in the suunshine state we dont seem to have any of those prob with roof lights, its very common up here

cheers

Originally Posted by mcrover

The only thing that you need to consider when mounting lights on top of the bull bar is that it makes the vehical unroadworthy and may cop a fine in some states as does in the roof rack.

Not that it stops anyone but I just thought i'd bring it up.

You are right and wasn't sure when I bought the vehicle so I asked a police friend of mine and he said " I was ok to be above the bullbar as long as it was in the forward half of the vehicle".

Now I don't know how acurate that statement was and if it is just WA. I remember reading in another thread on here the other day that it was illegal in Qld. (There goes my driving holiday to Qld).

But I have decided to leave them as is until I eventually get some Predators or I get told to remove the top ones. They have been on there for 7 years now.