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    the disco backfired and blew off the pipes

    ok guy i finnally got off the old backside and got the photo its a 95 3.9v8
    where my finger is pointing to a black prong < i put tape around it to slow water getting in >
    there used to be a pipe but it backfire and blew up and off everything
    where dose this pipe go to and what dose it do


    http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq327/oztrooper25/6-30-20098-18-41PM_0008.jpg

    my second question while i am here
    my disco is now running slightly rough im about to change the dizz cap and rota, iv changed all plug and leads oil and filter its been running on gas for a bit now any other ideas to look at? im trying hard to steer away from that air flow meter thing as it looks like 800 odd bucks

    any ideas?

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    mike 90 RR Guest
    In the photo .... where your second knuckle on your hand is .... you can see a T piece ... It suppose to join up there .... But you have got another large hose hooked up in it's place ( going over the Passenger rocker cover to somewhere)

    At the T piece.....
    1 large hose goes to a tin can on top of the drivers side rocker cover (rocker cover vent hose)
    1 small hose goes to the plentium ... ( I can see the small hose in the photo)

    That large hose that goes over the Passenger rocker cover ... Where's that going to???


    I took the liberty of Posting up your photo .. Matt



    Mike
    Last edited by mike 90 RR; 7th July 2009 at 09:23 AM. Reason: explaining who's photo it is

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    It'sNotWorthComplaining! Guest
    That Long hose should connect there. as in these pics. If you have your hoses wrongly connected then it could run, but if you had the hoses blow off via a LPG back fire then your MAF could be stuffed.
    $800, no you should get one for around $400 new on Ebay, There is a seller named Roverlord1 he has them.


    The other end goes to the firetrap on the drivers side rocker cover
    Last edited by It'sNotWorthComplaining!; 6th July 2009 at 08:29 PM. Reason: additional info

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    If you have LPG on that system and the PCV was still connected at that port (where your finger is pointing) then your LPG system was not installed correctly.

    If you want to avoid problems with backfiring on LPG, then the PCV entry port into the air induction system has to be before the LPG mixer. (This is to avoid the problem of a flame igniting a fuel mixture outside the combustion chamber.)

    You may also want to replace your flame trap on the RHS rocket cover.

    Diana

    Oops: should have looked closer, you do have LPG, the information and pictures in the posts by NotWorthComplaining in the case of an LPG system is incorrect. The LPG mixer ring is the thing connected to the tube near your left thumb, marked autogas. The PCV hose under your finger seems to be in the correct position, moved to before the mixer.

    What you need to do is replace a blanking cap and put a hose clamp on it where your finger is pointing, and replace your flame trap.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    If you have LPG on that system and the PCV was still connected at that port (where your finger is pointing) then your LPG system was not installed correctly.

    If you want to avoid problems with backfiring on LPG, then the PCV entry port into the air induction system has to be before the LPG mixer. (This is to avoid the problem of a flame igniting a fuel mixture outside the combustion chamber.)

    You may also want to replace your flame trap on the RHS rocket cover.

    Diana

    Oops: should have looked closer, you do have LPG, the information and pictures in the posts by NotWorthComplaining in the case of an LPG system is incorrect. The LPG mixer ring is the thing connected to the tube near your left thumb, marked autogas. The PCV hose under your finger seems to be in the correct position, moved to before the mixer.

    What you need to do is replace a blanking cap and put a hose clamp on it where your finger is pointing, and replace your flame trap.

    ok that big hose that is suposed to hook onto that pipe where my finger is gose from
    the driver side rockket cover to that T secetion from there it gose under the Air Flow Meter and plugs into that huge rubber pipe on the back between where the gas gose in and the Air Flow Meter is, not much of an air box left seen as it blows up so much some times 3 times in as little as 10 mins and stalls the car and i change it back to feul get it going again and change to gas again

    show me some photos of this blanking cap and put a hose clamp on it where your finger is pointing, and replace flame trap

    cheers matt

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    It'sNotWorthComplaining! Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    If you have LPG on that system and the PCV was still connected at that port (where your finger is pointing) then your LPG system was not installed correctly.

    If you want to avoid problems with backfiring on LPG, then the PCV entry port into the air induction system has to be before the LPG mixer. (This is to avoid the problem of a flame igniting a fuel mixture outside the combustion chamber.)

    You may also want to replace your flame trap on the RHS rocket cover.

    Diana

    Oops: should have looked closer, you do have LPG, the information and pictures in the posts by NotWorthComplaining in the case of an LPG system is incorrect. The LPG mixer ring is the thing connected to the tube near your left thumb, marked autogas. The PCV hose under your finger seems to be in the correct position, moved to before the mixer.

    What you need to do is replace a blanking cap and put a hose clamp on it where your finger is pointing, and replace your flame trap.
    The pick I am showing is of an LPG installation, and it was fitted by LPG 1 in Victoria... they are reputed to be Land Rover LPG specialists, they don't use a mixer ring on the installation, they do it with the the Mixer unit bolted directly to the throttle body, so it may depend on installation of he system.

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    get it converted to gas injection, no backfires, no worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by It'sNotWorthComplaining! View Post
    The pick I am showing is of an LPG installation, and it was fitted by LPG 1 in Victoria... they are reputed to be Land Rover LPG specialists, they don't use a mixer ring on the installation, they do it with the the Mixer unit bolted directly to the throttle body, so it may depend on installation of he system.
    If LPG 1 did the conversion and left the PCV port in that position then I wouldn't be going back there for another installation. It's wrong. You should be avoiding having a potential flame source inserted into a fuel/air mix. LPG 1 in Victoria was just being lazy.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewk View Post
    ok that big hose that is suposed to hook onto that pipe where my finger is gose from
    the driver side rockket cover to that T secetion from there it gose under the Air Flow Meter and plugs into that huge rubber pipe on the back between where the gas gose in and the Air Flow Meter is, not much of an air box left seen as it blows up so much some times 3 times in as little as 10 mins and stalls the car and i change it back to feul get it going again and change to gas again

    show me some photos of this blanking cap and put a hose clamp on it where your finger is pointing, and replace flame trap

    cheers matt
    Matt ... Your "wording" is hard to understand ... Reread It'sNotWorthComplaining! & Lotz-a-Landies posting's ....

    A blanking cap looks like ... a 30mm long rubber hose with 1 end plugged off // Basically a plug

    If your car starts and runs OK on petrol and gives no grief ... then your MAF is most probably OK ... Your backfiring is due to other items ... as your gas does not rely or use the MAF // MAF is for the Petrol side of things // MAF controls / signals the ECU for the fuel injectors

    Whats your timing set at??

    If it is backfiring all the time .... I would run it on only petrol .. and make haste to a gas mechanic

    Mike
    Last edited by mike 90 RR; 7th July 2009 at 09:21 AM. Reason: reconigiton of It'sNotWorthComplaining! posting

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    It'sNotWorthComplaining! Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    If LPG 1 did the conversion and left the PCV port in that position then I wouldn't be going back there for another installation. It's wrong. You should be avoiding having a potential flame source inserted into a fuel/air mix. LPG 1 in Victoria was just being lazy.
    I don't want to get off topic,
    I don't understand what your saying.... The flame trap on the Right rocker cover has a wire mesh wad inside, it prevents oil getting sucked up in the vacuum The system is the same as standard petrol,the hose is a vacuum hose where it draws oil fumes back into the plenum ( Aka like a PCV valve), I can't see how it can be a potential flame source unless you had a crank case fire, am I missing something.??????

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