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    To hange to oil feed is it just a matter of leaving out the axle housing seal? Wouldn't the oil, which is thineer than grease, seep out from the bearing hub seal?

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    I've Never had any issues with running grease in bearings , There has been so far no apparent Spline wear on stub Axles , and no excessive wear on bearings etc . There is still regular maintenance involved even with oil , water ingress mixed with oil can still place wear on splines and bearings. oh and I have changed to double lip type seals with grease.

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    my only concern with running oil...is knowning my luck they would leak and I believe once you convert to oil you cant convert back..is that right?
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    my only concern with running oil...is knowning my luck they would leak and I believe once you convert to oil you cant convert back..is that right?

    been running oil for years, no leaks.
    if you want to go back to grease just put the axle seal back in.

    cheers phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    my only concern with running oil...is knowning my luck they would leak and I believe once you convert to oil you cant convert back..is that right?
    It is only recently that Land Rover changed to grease for lubricating wheel bearings and cv's. Until then they were oil lubricated and wheel bearings never failed.

    When they changed to grease, they used a different seal in the hub. This seal will not keep oil in (and won't keep water or dust out).

    If you change back to oil lubrication, it is necessary to use the double lip oil seal.

    I can see no reason (other than inferior lubrication) why you couldn't revert back to grease after running oil.

    Grease (non-synthetic) is emulsified oil (emulsified with metallic soap and some with water) - it is the oil contained in grease that does the lubricating.

    Heat breaks the emulsification down, which usually leads to failure - oil will operate at considerably higher temps.

    I suspect Land Rover changed to grease because of oil leaks. They most likely changed to grease for cv's because of oil leaks from swivel housing (usually due to adjustment of swivel bearings).

    IMHO one-shot grease doesn't lube the cv's and swivel bearings as well as oil - which is why mine are oil lubricated.

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    i do my wheel bearings everytime the rego is renewed, i bit of an over kill but i have never had a wheel bearing failure

    i have oil lubed bearing on the rear and still inspect them every year or prior to an extended outback trip

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    not good to hear, lucky you werent going down the freeway with a camper on the back kids in the car, on anather note who do you get to do your work around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush65 View Post
    It is only recently that Land Rover changed to grease for lubricating wheel bearings and cv's. Until then they were oil lubricated and wheel bearings never failed.

    When they changed to grease, they used a different seal in the hub. This seal will not keep oil in (and won't keep water or dust out).

    If you change back to oil lubrication, it is necessary to use the double lip oil seal.

    I can see no reason (other than inferior lubrication) why you couldn't revert back to grease after running oil.

    Grease (non-synthetic) is emulsified oil (emulsified with metallic soap and some with water) - it is the oil contained in grease that does the lubricating.

    Heat breaks the emulsification down, which usually leads to failure - oil will operate at considerably higher temps.

    I suspect Land Rover changed to grease because of oil leaks. They most likely changed to grease for cv's because of oil leaks from swivel housing (usually due to adjustment of swivel bearings).

    IMHO one-shot grease doesn't lube the cv's and swivel bearings as well as oil - which is why mine are oil lubricated.


    from what year did they change to grease? iv got the 95 v8i and havent check mine
    what oils did they use? i did oil seal on rear diff a while back and seen blue or green oil i think not 100% tho,

    but will look at them before my november weekend on melb cup day

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewk View Post
    from what year did they change to grease? iv got the 95 v8i and havent check mine
    what oils did they use? i did oil seal on rear diff a while back and seen blue or green oil i think not 100% tho,

    but will look at them before my november weekend on melb cup day
    I'm not sure what year they changed from oil to grease lube.

    I use the same oil that goes into the diffs.

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    Well i read this thread a few days ago, and thought hmmm.... i should repack mine soon..... what happened last night? It pooped itself.... I hadn't driven it in about a month but my partner had, she thought a little squeek and grind was normal..... well now I have dramas. Managed to get the inner casing off after it had welded itself to the stub axle. but i dont have the tools to repair the stub, so a call to Bruce Davis is in order for monday morning. Spoke to him this afternoon and I was prepared to drive to sydney for another one lol.

    I am now regretting very much that I hadnt done them sooner like I had planned. Preventative maintenance is definately the key to a happy 4WD!!!!

    Sorry to jump on the thread, but thought I would share the news! I must have jinxed myself by reading the thread! haha

    Cheers,

    Brenton

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