Reply With Quoteno idea what you are talking about, probably best to explain yourself a little better - like what spacers are you fitting? what car you fitting them to? who said you need longer bolts? etc etc..
Steve
Master
I have 50 mm spacers I want to fit, what size are the longer bolts I need to get?
Master
no idea what you are talking about, probably best to explain yourself a little better - like what spacers are you fitting? what car you fitting them to? who said you need longer bolts? etc etc..
Steve
Master
50mm coil spacers that go ontop of the axel on my D2. The bolts need to be longer.
Wizard
SubscriberUhmm.........50mm longer perhaps!Originally Posted by Riceburner
Swaggie
Probably the thread pattern also.Uhmm.........50mm longer perhaps!
You may need to pull one out and measure it. It'll probably be a metric thread.
Cheers
Slunnie
~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~
Master
And when you fit them you will be moving the brake line mounting (coil seat) up 2" higher, so when on full lock the brake line will be VERY stretched one way, so when fitting spacers you really need to re-mount the brake line back down 2" to compensate for that, and "if" you fit longer travel shocks, then I would HIGHLY recommend extended brake lines as it will be very tight even with the standard shocks.
Master
What the diffirence with a 50mm suspension and 50mm coil spacer fitment then. The bolts are 10m metric. You saying the brake lines need changing with spacers but not with the lift kit????
Master
The difference is, a lift kit with springs, the spring seat does not move up higher, with spacers it goes up 2"......as they go underneath it, so does the brake pipe mounting go up to, so yes with spacers I would STRONGLY recommend extended hoses, and thats even with the brake line bracket adjustment back down.........as far as extended hoses with a spring lift, well "people" say you dont need to, but mine with OME springs on the front and SLS spacers on the rear was VERY tight at full axle drop, this was because of the extended shocks.
The shocks limit the axle travel, so if you dont fit new ones the factory brake hose will be ok with spacers (as long as you adjust the hose mounting back down 2"). For me personally its worth doing anyway, the replacement stainless hoses are far superior to the crap thats fitted in the factory and take away the "risk" of anything happening when offroad.
And another thing, is the front prop, if you fit extended shocks (depending on make) or spacers it is HIGHLY likely the front prop will hit the front crossmember as well, so that really needs spacing down, usually by about 10mm which is what I needed and so did my friend who has 50mm spacers on the front.
Master
Hello again UrbanPanzer.
I run a similar suspension setup like you(sls spacers etc.)and i am due to changing to +2" terrafirma shocks,u say 10-20 mm (crossmember) spacing is enough?
At the rear end - and according to my measurements,i'll have no problem with the airbag(overextended or something)?
Should i order brake hoses before installing the shocks,the abs cables needed "reseating" or the slack they have is enough?
I was thinking of installing the shocks and go for a (off-road) test drive,take measurements again etc..- but since you did the job,spell it out mate-what else did you see-observe?(time to update the mod page on your excellent site)
When i installed the rear spacers i used 2 jacks to move the axle from full compresion to full drop(with the airbags deflated),i saw when the axle touches the bump stop,the original shock had 1"-1.5" uptravel left(upper shock mount is high enough),so i guess the +2" shocks won't bottom out-albeit the (deflated)airbag,couldn't shrink-collapse any more,so i guess maybe 1" bump stop extension - for the peace of mind - is needed?
Plus that i don't think that an sls disco axle ever touches the rear bump stops (unless parked with leaking bags!!)
Thanks
Sorry for hijacking the thread
Master
All my answers in red.......hope its legible LOL
No probs with a hijack from me, its good to discuss ALL the options imo. This is the first Vehicle I have ever lifted, so its all new to me to, but I think theres a few things that you can do to take away any possible doubt ref brake lines etc when you go offroad.Hello again UrbanPanzer.
I run a similar suspension setup like you(sls spacers etc.)and i am due to changing to +2" terrafirma shocks,u say 10-20 mm (crossmember) spacing is enough?
My cross member is spaced with a 13mm (1/2") ALi block under each side, as that was "readily" available at work
At the rear end - and according to my measurements,i'll have no problem with the airbag(overextended or something)?
Should i order brake hoses before installing the shocks,the abs cables needed "reseating" or the slack they have is enough?
My advice is yes fit longer hoses with +2" shocks, The ABS lines can be carefully "pulled" through each grommet to give enough length, the clip that holds the plug on the inner wing can be moved if need be, (already moved my passenger side one when installing ARB battery tray) or move the ABS plug itself into only the lower half of the clip, this is on the front, on the rear theres not much more ABS line to be had, but you can move it to the lower part of the clip to give a "little" which I think is enough on the rear. Some SLS kits come with a bracket to relocate the brake line etc lower on the chassis outrigger (4x4intelligence "I think") but that bracket would have been no good on mine for example as the fixed brake line would not be / was not long enough to move down that far, so the extended hoses remove the need for the bracket and give the extra length required.
I was thinking of installing the shocks and go for a (off-road) test drive,take measurements again etc..- but since you did the job,spell it out mate-what else did you see-observe?
Have not got round to it yet
When i installed the rear spacers i used 2 jacks to move the axle from full compresion to full drop(with the airbags deflated),i saw when the axle touches the bump stop,the original shock had 1"-1.5" uptravel left(upper shock mount is high enough),so i guess the +2" shocks won't bottom out-albeit the (deflated)airbag,couldn't shrink-collapse any more,so i guess maybe 1" bump stop extension - for the peace of mind - is needed?
Still considering a +2" bumps stop extension on the rear, because the spacer below the bag will push the lower piston of the bag 2" further up, and from thininkg about it, It seems "possible" the 2 bag pistons could touch internally, don't know what the outcome would be but dont want to find out either lol, the bump stop would provide peace of mind "imo", although mine has had the wheels on the rear stuffed up into the arches pretty much recently on a play day and no problems arose from that.
Plus that i don't think that an sls disco axle ever touches the rear bump stops (unless parked with leaking bags!!)
Agree with this mostly.
Thanks
Sorry for hijacking the thread
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