Thread: Set up cost - accessories

Originally Posted by big guy

Why diesel better off road?

IMHO one of the best things about diesels off road is less overheating. The V8 tends to get very hot. A bloke who did soil testing in a RRC 2 door eventually bought a Deefer 300TDi and never looked back. (This was after a number of major upgrades to his cooling by me) His a/c could be run non stop at idle while he did his sampling on a hot day. Diesels are essentially air cooled internally while idling/ going slowly.

Once you get it...put some recovery points on the front and some recovery gear.

Originally Posted by MickS

Once you get it...put some recovery points on the front and some recovery gear.

That's so the loooong list prevents a looooooong walk home.

Originally Posted by big guy

Why diesel better off road?

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Originally Posted by bee utey

IMHO one of the best things about diesels off road is less overheating. The V8 tends to get very hot. A bloke who did soil testing in a RRC 2 door eventually bought a Deefer 300TDi and never looked back. (This was after a number of major upgrades to his cooling by me) His a/c could be run non stop at idle while he did his sampling on a hot day. Diesels are essentially air cooled internally while idling/ going slowly.

I see what you are saying but that is not off-roading. That is doing nothing whilst the motor ticks over glazing its bores so the surveyer or what ever he is keeps his cabin cool.
Off roading IMHO is driving in territory not suited to standard vehicles.
I have had many V8's and must say that the low down grunt is brilliant, no wait for turbo to spool up etc, only other car was a Isuzu powered dinosour that crawled up almost anything.

With a good cooling system, my cars never overheated and in very hot weather I never did anything too silly.

Big difference in petrol or diesel was fuel consumption where the diesel won.

Just my observations

Well after going off road with friends, i've observed many petrol cars having issues because of water getting into the spark plug leads, or water simply being enough to short out spark related things. Basically every river crossing, a patrol and a pajero would be misfiring afterwards and would have to pull over and play around with WD40 etc for some time.

Meanwhile the diesel powered cars seem to have no trouble comparatively.

There is also the issue of range for the petrol powered. However I have no problem with having LPG duel fuel if its done properly so that would help a lot.

Originally Posted by shibby73

Just my observations

Well after going off road with friends, i've observed many petrol cars having issues because of water getting into the spark plug leads, or water simply being enough to short out spark related things. Basically every river crossing, a patrol and a pajero would be misfiring afterwards and would have to pull over and play around with WD40 etc for some time.

Meanwhile the diesel powered cars seem to have no trouble comparatively.

There is also the issue of range for the petrol powered. However I have no problem with having LPG duel fuel if its done properly so that would help a lot.

Water crossings are a bit of a problem if petrol, thats true.
Depending on how deep though and how well done. Disconnect fans and slow and steady with a blanket out front to form a wake etc.

Range is another issue and agree there which is probably main reason I changed to a diesel also.

How would LPG help though? Range? More range with long range tank!

I almost always had lpg put on my petrol Landy's by Bee utey here and have been 100 % reliable but always switched over to petrol when off roading for the extra bit of grunt from idle.

Yes its the river crossings and range that are the main issues. Like I said, I wouldn't have a problem with LPG but I think i'd rather have a diesel.

Anyway back to topic - here is my rough list for things that I will need to buy if i get one that doesn't have anything.
Obviously I will be shopping for one that has some of this stuff already. And installing most of this myself will save on a lot of the cost too.

1600 bull bar
400 lights
1300 suspension
1200 tyres
500 snorkel
350 duel battery
750 cargo barrier
= 5850

+ $1200 things from les richmond that I will end up getting

roughly $7k.

thanks for the help dudes