Thread: 3 Amigos - Symptoms and Remedy

Originally Posted by justinc

Option B is a bit obvious and not as neat as it involves cutting and splicing of wiring connectors, and the use of a reliable earth point.

Option B is as obvious and as neat as you want to make it. I crimped and soldered almost all the connections. (wire to wire, wire to crimps, and plenty of heat shrink). Used a fancier water tight connection, looks like any other part electric layout of the car.

When I did option B I didn't remove the modulator from the car, just removed the holding points and this was enough room to place a allen key in the SVS and job done. No need to remove brake lines etc.

Most importantly it works.

Regards
Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrew D

Option B is as obvious and as neat as you want to make it. I crimped and soldered almost all the connections. (wire to wire, wire to crimps, and plenty of heat shrink). Used a fancier water tight connection, looks like any other part electric layout of the car.

When I did option B I didn't remove the modulator from the car, just removed the holding points and this was enough room to place a allen key in the SVS and job done. No need to remove brake lines etc.

Most importantly it works.

Regards
Andrew

Yes I did it in the vehicle, much better way, unnecessary I think removing the whole unit for these little jobs.
I would say yes it is wholly dependent also on the skill of the repairer as to the finished result re quality soldering and neatness.

JC

The lights might be out, but if they did an OBD scan??? (But they would need a Nanocom or similar)

I've done option B and the result is an error free scan of the SLABS by nanocom.

No way it can be detected electrically as it repairs the problem.

AND if you dont fix it there will be a record in the error logs of when it occurred should any insurer be that investigative, or more likely, the cops investigating a fatal prang.

As Justinc says you are not altering the mechanics of the modulator, just repairing the wiring.

Originally Posted by bsperka

The lights might be out, but if they did an OBD scan??? (But they would need a Nanocom or similar)

No, they wont find anything because there is nothing to find!
Option B is simply a different way to do option A, which simply saves replacing the whole solenoid pack! Its just a wiring reroute.

It is no different to replacing a damaged wire on a brake light, headlight, fuel pump, ABS sensor (how many have had this done?) Dont hear any squeaking about insurance with these.
There are no mods to the function of the system whatsoever.

Next people are going to panic and suggest the wiring loom will have to be replaced if the plug to the ABS pump breaks because it isnt a factory replacement!

Option B can be detected VISUALLY.



It's a big, ugly band-aid, not a repair. I reckon that is going to be an excellent indicator of vehicles that have had short cuts taken with their maintenance for future D2 buyers.

Option B cuts existing wiring, adds in external wiring, bypasses internal connection, adds a number of extra solder joins in wiring, plus crimp fittings. As the Option B tutorial indicates the extra ground wire is itself a point of failure.

Option A fixes the cause of the problem, -one possibly two cracked solder joins - and doesn't alter the modulator in any, functional or visible way.

Option A FTW.

Originally Posted by Marmoset

I'm about to undertake option B and was wondering what the insurance situation would be. I've done some more reading on it and come to the conclusion that it's better to fix and have no intermittent problems than keep driving around with it happening at random.

one could also argue upgrade headlight looms alter the OEM specs of a vehicle, lifts, using poly bushes instead of OEM etc etc. Would the insurance knock back a claim? or do we list Shuttle valve mods in our list of mods included in policy

This is turning into a classic.

Option A is in effect the equivalent to ripping the gizzards out, hacking them up, then throwing them back in.

Do we honestly car that much about how it looks. We drive D2's (At least I have a slightly more appealing D2a )

Regards
Andrew