I did get shy on using Goodyear after having a set of the ATR's on my old company Rodeo. They were terribly noisy from 30,000 km onward, couldn't wear them out but had to turn the stereo up.
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Okay guys, i've picked three, and cannot decide...how unusual! :angel:
Pirelli ATR - Seems to be a good all round tire. $260 ea IIRC
Maxxis 751s - interesting idea, how do they go in basic/general offroading? .$220 ea
G/Y Wrangler Silent Armour. - seemingly indestructible, good offroad. Cost? Road manners?
Cheers Guys!
P.S sorry for dragging it out, but this forum is like the Landy bible.
When I got back from my trip around Australia, I had a set of the Maxxis 751's on the trailer behind the defender. They performed fautlessly over 45,000kms on some pretty dodgy roads - no punctures and wore really well. I had passenger tyres on the disco in 235-70 and wanted some light truck tyres. I swapped the bridgestone 694s in passenger construction from the d2 onto the camper and put the 3 of the 751's on the disco in 235-85. I then bought two new ones for the rear at the magic price of $220. I have since done around 20,000 kms in the disco on this tyre size and love it. They dont rub anywhere because they are the same width as standard. They fill the arches nicely and I think they go great off road. By no means are they a mud tyre but I think they perform as well as the bridgestone's and bf goodrich's off road. With this size you can afford to drop the pressures off road too which makes a huge differece.
On road they are way quiter than the bf's too. They have a true 10 ply Light Truck rating. One thing I have noticed with them is that to reduce sidewall flex I run an extra 4psi front and rear to reducing the flexing-rolling from side to side on the road. I regularly go through the black spur near healsville and they handle great.
I am by no means a maxxis salesman but I think that the majority of the other brands out there are for looks rather than performance. Especially the american brands. A heap of blokes use the 751's up in the Kimberly too due to their toughness and they suit my mix of high country and outback driving.
Now off my soap box....:cool:
I'm running Michelin Lattiude Cross 235/70/16's. These are the replacement for the Synchrone 4x4 Slunnie mentioned above. Put them on just before a trip to the Northern Flinders Ranges and they suffered pretty badly. I copped one puncture on the rear with a rock went through the middle of the tread at Arkaroola. The tread on the two tyres that were on the back are covered in cuts from that adventure.
For my normal driving - bush tracks, Mallee sand tracks, and long road trips - they have been fantastic. Definitely not a mud tyre however.
cheers
Paul
I recently fitted a set of Silverstone At 117's & am happy with them. They are pretty much the same tread pattern as the BFG AT's. Cost was $950 for 5 fitted so I was happy enough. Have not heard any bad reports as yet. Seem to be wearing well & are not noisy.
I replaced my worn out Pirelli A/T's with ATR's.(LT version) becuase they stopped supplying A/T's in 16 inch. I would get A/T's again if I had the larger rims.
Very happy with the ATR's, same low noise/great grip on the black top wet and dry, same great handling on the dirt, same fantastic puncture resistance,Boulia, Alice Springs via the Plenty highway, Utopia community via sandover Highway, Palm Valley, oodnadatta track, Flinders Ranges, not a mark on them!
A little less agressive than the A/T's but handle the mud better than the tread pattern would suggest.
I got mine for $240@ at Jax about a year ago- Bargain I thought
Cheers
I would go the ATR,make sure you get LT.Lots of good reports on these.A bit more expensive than the others,but you only get what you pay for.Still a fair bit cheaper than BFG,and by a lot of reports,just as good or better.
The 0ne issue with the BFG is they seem to go hard after around 6 yrs or so.
I understand that 6 years is the typical design life for a tyre, so it makes sense that BFGs (and other tyres) seem weird after this. BTW: tyres are at least 2 to 6 months old by the time we get them. At 15,000 to 20,000km a year, that's somewhere between 80,000 to over 100,000km if the tyre is at the age limit which would be good distance on a set of tyres in most people's books.
I'm tossing up between the ATRs or the Maxxis 771, only because of a bias against Pirelli in the past (can't even remember why I have it now, it's so long ago). But the reviews are all for the Pirelli in on and off road conditions, which is really swaying me. Several drivers I know reckon that they will get them again; they are mainly road and sand (Fraser Island) drivers. If they are as good as they say, then $40 more per tyre against a Maxxis will quickly be forgotten.
I've had Maxxis on 6 cars now, including one four wheel drive, a Range Rover with 751s, just after the brand was released into Australia, and they are good value for money, with low noise, good wet grip and good mileage.
A bad tyre (those with longer braking, no grip in the wet etc) can kill, as not all tyres are the same. The ad for Goodyear is a good motto to remember "If it ( a tyre) saves you once a year, its a Goodyear".
Okay guys. I've settled on the Pirelli ATRs...
Thinking of getting them in the 285/70/16s
Will this cause any rubbings in a disco with no lift?