#Statusquo
I dont know the thickness of the ARB points but i can tell you the 4x4eng ones are 5/8 or 16mm thick. The only thing that will let go in a recovery WILL be the bolts if anything. You could tow a B double with these mounts. From memory the bolt are 12mm gr 8.8 or 10.9 or 1/2 gr8.
I believe many of the forum members use the 4x4 eng points.
The idea is to not get stuck in the first place.
As has been said before " a chain is only as strong as its weekest link"
cheers
R2
Cheers R2, will measure up and advise...I've got all the gear but as yet remain unstuck, it's only a matter of time so I'm looking for peace of mind that's for sure!
Measured..10mm plates with 10mm bolts and locknuts..
Last edited by Statusquo; 16th January 2013 at 09:46 AM.
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Some panel damage? I have seen pics of a point that failed and the steel mount went through the rear doors of a cruiser, through some luggage and embedded itself in the back of the rear seat! Could be classed as "Some panel damage" I suppose :/ Never Ever under estimate the kinetic energy stored in a strap, chain, or wire rope! Never!
I have seen that. definitely something to be wary of.
failure like that sounds quite amazing. you don't happen to have any pics?
you can be sure i wont over estimate the build quality of my car again.
Yerok its not about the build quality of your car but rather using things for what Mr LR designed them for mate. A lot of large 4wd vehicles only have tie down points for slide tray and similar use only. The d2 chassis is built like a brick outhouse and heavy duty recovery points mounted aft of the crush cans are the go.
if you have any ideas as to how I can drive my car while not being inside of it I am happy to hear it.
I was only referring to the fact you said no one was within 50m of it, I've seen snatch straps break and its amazing the amount of stored energy there is there, they scare me a little especially when I see your recovery point and think that could be attached to the end of it
"I guess its my fault for not doing a search for their strength."
I disagree, that point failed not only due to insufficient material at the lower through hole but also CORROSION. But the most significant reason for failure was dynamic recovery.
So really it was your fault for not checking the safety of the point and overloading it in a dynamic recovery?
You may not "want a winch" but hang around long enough and you will one day stop using snatch straps too. I am yet to find a situation where a dynamic recovery was safer than a static recovery (quicker perhaps but never safer)
The more stuck at the worst time (below the tide on a rising tide)
Only forces me to use a more static and safe recovery technique.
Exploding snatches occur when people are stressed and rushing and not checking the obvious.
IMO of course!
Steve
'95 130 dual cab fender (gone to a better universe)
'10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)
I remember many, many, many, many, (etc) years ago on a Land Rover club trip up the MacDonald River (up the bed) and remember well the sounds of straps breaking repeatedly. I would have been about 6 or 7 and the straps would break, get tied back together and break again. When too short get another broken one and make one from two. Never used one in my life, the prime reason I'' buy individual recovery bits rather than a kit is I don't want the included mandatory snatch strap nor do I want to pass it onto someone else.
Someone was asking for a pic - this might help - its the 4DE version or whatever its called.
Ignore the little chrome bit near the top - the recovery point just been used as a convenient access to attach an elasticised holder for the bottom of my radiator screen/waterbra (which was taken from a defender and only partially successful as the disco is a bit wider).
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that point failed not only due to insufficient material at the lower through hole but also CORROSION. But the most significant reason for failure was dynamic recovery.
So really it was your fault for not checking the safety of the point and overloading it in a dynamic recovery.
Yes you are correct, over loading the point was the main problem.
corrosion is minimal this happened they i spent 3 days on the beach so bare metal and salt air make it look worse than what it is.
Originally Posted by roverrescue
You may not "want a winch" but hang around long enough and you will one day stop using snatch straps too. I am yet to find a situation where a dynamic recovery was safer than a static recovery (quicker perhaps but never safer)
no one ever uses winches on the beach, not even the tag along tours even though they are legally required to have them. snatch straps are the recovery method on the beach. 9 times out of 10 the stuck vehicle just needs a little bit of help to get it out of the whole after it gets dug out.
I hope that these recovery tracks are good enough that i can leave my snatch strap relatively unused.
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Originally Posted by schuy1
Some panel damage?I have seen pics of a point that failed and the steel mount went through the rear doors of a cruiser, through some luggage and embedded itself in the back of the rear seat! Could be classed as "Some panel damage" I suppose :/ Never Ever under estimate the kinetic energy stored in a strap, chain, or wire rope! Never!
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