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    Quote Originally Posted by Yerok30 View Post
    the hook is no where near safe.
    no one was within 50m of the recovery.
    I am getting some rated recovery points professionally installed ASAP.
    Thank you for your comment
    Given nobody was within 50m, I guess its safe to say there was nobody driving either vehicle then eh?

    stating the obvious perhaps, but be realistic, the bloke in the driver's seat remains at risk

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2D2 View Post
    I fitted these 4x4 engineering points.
    Mounts are only as strong as the hardware securing them.
    I showed the ARB pic to a bloke at ARB and he said they were not thiers.Cheers
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    Attachment 55494
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    I have the same ones on mine, apparently fitted by ARB Thomastown..for the original owner..I showed the boys up here and they also said.".never seen them before"...with ARB stickers still on them....Never used them, and after reading this I don't think I will be.

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    #Statusquo
    I dont know the thickness of the ARB points but i can tell you the 4x4eng ones are 5/8 or 16mm thick. The only thing that will let go in a recovery WILL be the bolts if anything. You could tow a B double with these mounts. From memory the bolt are 12mm gr 8.8 or 10.9 or 1/2 gr8.
    I believe many of the forum members use the 4x4 eng points.
    The idea is to not get stuck in the first place.

    As has been said before " a chain is only as strong as its weekest link"
    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by R2D2 View Post
    The idea is to not get stuck in the first place.
    R2
    Sometimes it's very difficult to avoid getting stuck.
    I'd say the best idea is to ensure that
    a) your vehicle is properly equipped to handle a vigorous recovery attempt
    and b) you perform said recovery correctly, doing everything possible to minimise the risk.

    If you have suitable high tensile bolts securing your recovery points, and you don't recover like an idiot you should be fine.
    If you want to be really pedantic, replace the bolts after x number of strenuous recoveries like you do with snatch straps.
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    Just as a matter of interest what tyre pressures were OP and the others running? Bit hard to tell from the vid but the walls look to be standing up fairly well.
    And yes shock loadings can be very much higher than winching pulls, up to double an engineer mate told me

    Cheers Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuy1 View Post
    Just as a matter of interest what tyre pressures were OP and the others running? Bit hard to tell from the vid but the walls look to be standing up fairly well.
    And yes shock loadings can be very much higher than winching pulls, up to double an engineer mate told me

    Cheers Scott
    D2 18psi, rodeo 18psi, land cruiser when it was stuck was 30psi, during recovery 18psi.

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    this was definitely a big recovery and would have been close to 5 tonne of bogged car. in future i will use the tow hitch for big recoveries.

    I am not really interested in winches. if you cant drive there your self I don't see the point. being dragged to places isn't 4x4ing.

    this broke because I was trying to help a family out so they could get back to enjoying their holiday, to remove the danger from the bypass and in the hope that if this happens to me other will help out.

    I didn't get bogged the whole trip but I bought a set of recovery tracks for my trip next weekend they are the single best option for beach recoveries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchiDna View Post
    Given nobody was within 50m, I guess its safe to say there was nobody driving either vehicle then eh?

    stating the obvious perhaps, but be realistic, the bloke in the driver's seat remains at risk
    there is no possible way that the tow point could ever end up hitting a person in the drivers seat in this situation. stating the obvious perhaps, but be realistic, the load is in the complete opposite direction. worst case scenario, if it broke when the strap was 100% stretched and was at the right angle, it would hit the back of the rodeo causing some panel damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yerok30 View Post
    the hook is no where near safe.
    no one was within 50m of the recovery.
    I am getting some rated recovery points professionally installed ASAP.
    Thank you for your comment
    Except the people in the 4wds

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    Some panel damage? I have seen pics of a point that failed and the steel mount went through the rear doors of a cruiser, through some luggage and embedded itself in the back of the rear seat! Could be classed as "Some panel damage" I suppose :/ Never Ever under estimate the kinetic energy stored in a strap, chain, or wire rope! Never!

    I found this on Utube. gives you some idea of the power! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YR22oP1WRtY
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