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  1. #41
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    Mate, The GY Duratrac are a pretty good tyre...

    We use them on the fleet here and they wear ok and run ok on road, although a little noisy.

    They do puncture quite easily though - sticks, sharp rocks etc..

    Just be aware..


    Consider also, pricing the D697 Dueller - The new ones (which are Japanese rubber) ride better, are much thicker rubber in the tread / body and grip like a teenage boy in all but the worst offroad.

    They self clean well, but still are not a muddy!

    And pretty quiet at speed on the highway too..

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    I'll have a look. Only reason I'm going for the Durotrac is that they are better than an A/T but not a M/T. Normally I would just run a muddy as everyday tyre, but I need to use the Disco to tow our 21' caravan and I don't like the idea of doing that on muddies.

    I used to tow the van with the Prado which was shod with Mickey T MTZ'S but the Prado handled a lot better than the Disco.

    The aim is to have a 33" tyre that will tow the van and still be ok driving up the Cape (later this year) and do weekends up the high country.

    My brother in law has them on his jeep and we were surprised how well the did offroad and yet were so quiet onroad.

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    Just had a look. The 697's aren't aggressive enough for me.

    The only other tyre with the same sort of tread is the Cooper STmax but I refuse to by Cooper. I wouldn't get MTZ's again either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walker View Post
    Just had a look. The 697's aren't aggressive enough for me.

    The only other tyre with the same sort of tread is the Cooper STmax but I refuse to by Cooper. I wouldn't get MTZ's again either.
    Your call...

    Just for context - I'm using both & I'm sold on the 697... The design of the tread works far better than I expected - I'd go so far as to say better than the Duratracs I have on the work Prado...

    All the roads around here are Clay soil with aggregate, and watered down every day so extremely slick when wet... The Prado (and I) found the table drain yesterday due to a "Traction misunderstanding"

    The D4 on factory tyres slid around, the 697s are holding much better... And on loose gravel and loose rock (cape roads) surprisingly sure footed... The Duratrac is about on par on this.

    I can tell you though - the 697 is a much tougher tyre - much less likely to stake or puncture. And they chip a lot less...

    You may get some benefit from the Duratrac with the side biters though...

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    You won't convince me on the 697's but the strength of the Durotrac sidewalls does worry me a bit. I have a look at other forums and many people think they are fantastic. If I didn't go for them, then I would go for a m/t tyre. MTR's are always tough and are not too bad on the road.

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    Re: Rim offset - need a guide for dummy's

    Quote Originally Posted by walker View Post
    Yes. But I have to admit, the freight price was more than normal because I asked for them to be sent in two shipments so that the price of each shipment would be below $1000. Doing this added $170 to the cost.

    The price they have given me is $372/tyre shipped for Goodyear Durotrac 285/75-16. ($219 for tyre and $153 shipping)

    I havent ordered yet, so will ring around a few local tyre places and see how close they can get.
    Good to hear some feedback on the duratracs. I have ordered a tire rack set in 215/85r16 from there. I found a us car parts importer not far away who regularly brings in containers. Mine are being freighted to his guy in California and then coming slow boat for about $50 each.

    I went for the duratracs as the only tyre which is good enough in mud and packed snow. Most muddies are crap in snow and vice versa. I went skinny so I can wrap snow chains around them. For a classic rangie.

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    Do most of these tyres meet the load and speed ratings?
    Load Index of 105 or 925kg and speed category of T.

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    Ahh Dougal. I wish I had know. I would have seen if I could have put my tyres with yours.

    The tyres easily exceed the load rating, but I don't think any A/T or M/T meet that speed rating. Any way speed rating of T is 190km/h......goodluck getting a Disco going that fast. The Durotracs are rated P or Q depending on size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twr7cx View Post
    Do most of these tyres meet the load and speed ratings?
    Load Index of 105 or 925kg and speed category of T.
    T speed rating are NOT required.

    The law allows a lower speed rated tyre. P & Q are fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    T speed rating are NOT required.

    The law allows a lower speed rated tyre. P & Q are fine
    Do you have a reference? I ask as the tyre placard on the Discovery if I recall reads pretty firmly that tyres of a lower speed rating are not to be fitted? It would certainly make it easier for tyre choice!

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