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    Td5 oil leak - turbo area

    Hi all
    Alerted by some tell tale spots on the rear bumper, I realised oil was being hurled along under the car and landing there courtesy of turbulence...sump, crossmember and gearbox are wet, but anything above the airstream isn't.

    Off with the acoustic shell and heat shield, as I've often had issues with "loose" oil filters (only one elbow per arm ). The bottom of the filter was wet with oil - but so was what I assume is the oil return feed off the bottom of the turbo.

    I've been able to nip up the oil filter a smidge, but the oil pipe seems higher than the filter so I'm leaning towards this. Is this a common thing as I've not encountered it on 2 ROCKS? I've tried to tighten the bolts on the pipe flange but they seem pretty tight anyway. I take it there's a little seal between that and the turbo housing...

    Also does anyone know what size nuts I need for the exhaust manifold to front pipe studs? Er, it doesn't appear to have any...

    Cheers
    Mike
    '00 D2 Td5 'Alice'
    '03 V6 Freelander 'Phoebe'
    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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    There is a crushable gasket between the turbo and oil drain. They tend to leak if you reuse them.

    Drain gasket is PNT100030

    The Exhaust manifold to turbo nuts are M8. ESR2033

    Exhaust to Turbo gasket is ERR6768

    cheers
    Paul

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    Thanks for the prompt reply Paul!

    ..and for the numbers, outstanding!
    Cheers
    Mike
    '00 D2 Td5 'Alice'
    '03 V6 Freelander 'Phoebe'
    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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    Further to Pauls info, yes it is common I do them quite often, enough to keep those seals on the shelf.

    Beware that the flange DOES distort if overtightened, I would carefully inspect it before refitting, if it is warped you will need to remove the pipe from its bottom fitting (24mm/ 15/16" spanner) in the block and reface it, I use the side of a dressed large grinding wheel to do it, but a linisher would be best.

    JC
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    Thanks Justin
    I've cleaned the pipe and filter off, so I'm going to take if for a run and see if I can positively ID the culprit...but from what you say, I think it may be the turbo not the filter.

    As an aside, when looking round for my first Td5 6 years ago-ish, I inspected and rejected a nice example that had a flash oil filter remotely located on the firewall - my reasoning being "hmm, something must be wrong". Right or wrong, I know understand why they did it - changing the filter must have been a 20 second job!

    Cheers
    Mike
    '00 D2 Td5 'Alice'
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    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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    oil leak

    My td5 also leaked at the turbo return pipe when I first bought it.
    I could smell hot oil at the traffic lights. Took a while to find the culprit.
    The gasket cost about $3.00 and when I went to fit the new one I found the it had no gasket there at all! Now I knew why it was leaking.
    End of problem.

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    I had one last week like that !, owner had had vehicle for only a short time, bought it in Vic and lives here. Oil leak was a constant and found that the previous owner had fitted a new turbo with no gasket to the oil return.

    Easy fix

    JC
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    Quote Originally Posted by worane View Post
    My td5 also leaked at the turbo return pipe when I first bought it.
    I could smell hot oil at the traffic lights. Took a while to find the culprit.
    The gasket cost about $3.00 and when I went to fit the new one I found the it had no gasket there at all! Now I knew why it was leaking.
    End of problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    I had one last week like that !, owner had had vehicle for only a short time, bought it in Vic and lives here. Oil leak was a constant and found that the previous owner had fitted a new turbo with no gasket to the oil return.

    Easy fix

    JC
    Full points to both JC and Worane - did the oil return today and surprise, surprise...there was no gasket. Which makes me wonder - it's a bit of pain to get to so if youve already pulled it apart, why not put a 3 buck gasket in!

    However, this does not appear to be the end of the leak/s.

    As if...

    The side and bottom of the sump (where it kind of flares out) and engine mount bracket on the block are very wet with oil. I'm trying to figure out if that oil return is leaking where it joins the block, the sump gasket needs replacing or there's some other piece of plumbing under the exhaust manifold that could be leaking - a fair bit too given how much is on the crossmembers and gearbox? Will degrease again in daylight and check.

    Also, do the rocker cover gaskets have a tendency to go on the driver's side toward the rear? Both cars seem damp down that rear part of the block and I can't see anything there other than the FPR?

    Cheers
    Mike
    Last edited by 2 rocks; 14th April 2013 at 09:45 PM. Reason: extra info
    '00 D2 Td5 'Alice'
    '03 V6 Freelander 'Phoebe'
    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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    Similar scenario to you..ended up being a shot O ring in the engine oil cooler .

    Both our Td5's leaked from the rocker gasket right side rear and at the rear. I got rid of that for good by Ditching the rubber gromets and using fiber x1and metal x1 washers under the cover bolts.

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    I'd forgotten about the oil cooler...
    But another degrease and the area around the spin on & centrifugal filters and turbo oil pipes etc remains dry.
    Oil still dripping off the two bolt castings where the bell housing and rear of the sump meet.
    As I don't know what sump casting looks like off, I'm wondering if its the part of the sump gasket that seems to mate to the bell housing.
    Oh and looks like the front output housing is leaking too , if so, that'll have to wait till the gearbox is changed
    Cheers
    Mike
    '00 D2 Td5 'Alice'
    '03 V6 Freelander 'Phoebe'
    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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