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    front locker Ashcroft or Lokka??

    hello,

    As I gathered from the forum the standard axles and CV's of the D2 are pretty good but the front differential being a weak point. So I will hold of with axel's and CV's until it breaks but would like to eradicate the weakness of the front differential.

    These could be solved with a front locker which I like to have anyway the question is whether it is necessary spending another two grand for an Ashcroft front locker or go with the cheaper Lock-Right

    Davie's performance recommends Lock-Right and says less can go wrong,
    they will work even if the compressor should fail and are quite a bit cheaper.

    Would love to hear your suggestions in regards to this.

    Thanks a lot

    Steve

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    Why not go an Ashcroft ATB much better quality than a Lokka
    From your thread you wish to put it in the front I wouldn't be putting a Lokka in the front due to the handling issues it would introduce in a full time 4x4

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    Quote Originally Posted by djam1 View Post
    Why not go an Ashcroft ATB much better quality than a Lokka
    From your thread you wish to put it in the front I wouldn't be putting a Lokka in the front due to the handling issues it would introduce in a full time 4x4
    i agree with the above, a lokka is the same in operation as a detroit auto-locker, on a full time 4wd it is not advisable to put one in the front.

    the ashcroft ATB or detroit tru-track are well regarded for the front of the d2 and works well with the traction control. with these you do not need to upgrade the axles and cv's as less load is put on the driveline, and you get full steering ability.

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    Go the Ashcroft ATB, and let us know how it works out, particularly if there is any change to the steering feel in a corner under hard throttle...

    Go on, be a beta tester, hehe
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    This always gets me why the vendor plugs even if your compressor dies your locker still works just to get a sale , Come on the many years ive been running air lockers i have never had a compressor die or fail when needed ! I have had more issues with a well known oil leaking brand locker which have,nt failed just purged oil . In fact the compressor i have must be 15 years old now and still works a treat after how many Diff lock operations and reinflated tyres , I now have a Ashcroft air locker and about to try a Tjm Pro locker for the front and about to offload the other brand locker
    In my opinion i prefer a air locker for the reason of having the choice of when to use not when it thinks you need it also the option of a compressor for other use,s
    At the end of the day the choice you make will either be $ orientated poor advice or a well made decision .
    Good luck

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    G'day Steve,
    I have an ATB in the front of my 110, I love it. On road I don't notice it, off road I can feel it work. With a Detroit locker in the back I rarely even consider going for a full locking front diff. Not many people I can't keep up with with the current set up.
    NEVER put an auto-locker in the front of a constant 4WD vehicle, or you won't be able to steer and will abuse the rest of the drive train in short time. And if a D2 busts a CV you won't be driving very far!

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    Also if you want to strengthen the front get a reverse cut heavy duty ring and pinion. The stock units are the same as the rear from what I understand which means you are driving on their weaker side.

    Personally I have gone the Ashcroft ATB route.

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    Agree with above, You have a D2 , you have traction control, would be stupid to put anything other than a Torsen style diff in it, eg Ashcroft ATB , Eaton (detroit) Truetrac. the ATB is much easier on axles and cv's than a standard diff too , you wont need to upgrade them as you would if you installed a true difflock or detroit locker. (dont confuse detroit truetrac with detroit locker - they are totally different)

    Ive also had a Truetrac in the front & rear of my 110 for about 70,000 km . vehicle is better in every respect except increased front tyre wear

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    I want to know who's charging you 'two grand' for an Ashcroft locker.

    Personally, I considered going with the ATB's F&R, then considered Ashcroft locker rear and ATB front. I finally settled on Ashcroft lockers F&R with the obligatory 4.12's

    This suits me better for the type of driving I intend on doing in it (coming from a locked and lifted D1), and as Rangieman said, it gives control of the lot. I think I'd have regretted going with anything other than F&R lockers, having had them in the past and as I said, with what I want to do with them.

    In fact, Rangieman's mate will be setting up my diffs in the next week or two. Can't wait...

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    I have an ashcroft air locker in the rear of my disco with a Truetrac atb in the front.

    I find the truetrac improved the way my lifted car drives as it always wants to track straight so pulls the steering back to centre when cornering.

    The only time it is a hinderance is when driving hard in heavy rain as it breaks the traction of the mud tyres in corners as it tried to equal the load across the diff and forces understeer. Not that you should be driving like that in heavy rain! but i had to find where the limit was

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