A good read. Your calcs do not take into account a single cent spent on the Prado in the example though, so you are a lot further ahead than you think...
Ever wondered how much a td5 D2a costs to maintain over a 5 yr period? Well here's my experience from my records:
When we were looking for a decent 4WD for our block and occasional offroad stuff I was keen for a Prado 120 series (well actually a LC 100 if funds allowed) but SWMBO was dead set on a td5 because her previous tdi and its superior ride and handling had taken her and her folks across the Simpson without putting her mum's bad back out (ex-nurse!)
I agreed to take a punt that a D2a wouldn't cost more than a Prado over 5 years of ownership (not allowing for depreciation). She saw the only blue one for sale in Aust at Port Lincoln and after 5 years this is how things have panned out:
Disco 2a MY2003 build date 9/2002
Purchase 17th April 2009 $ 28,000.00
An equivalent Prado was 40k, so if the D2 costs less than 12k to repair over 5 years ($2400/ year) then we’re ahead!
2009 – rear disc pads $ 75.00
2010
Fuel tank hose Mar 2010 124,000km $ 30.00
120,000km service
Front Discs and pads Mar2010 $ 150.00
LHF Window Regulator April 2010 $ 125.00 (fitted Jan2011)
Starter motor contacts Apr10 126,000km $ 90.00
Fuel Pressure Regulator April10 126,600 $ 320.00
Radiator by-pass hoses $100.00
ABS code clear and shuttle valve rewire
Front Tailshaft June 2010 130,000km $ 600.00
RHF ABS wheel sensor July 10 132,000km $ 150.00
Pwr Steering LP Hose $70.00
1.10.10 Engine fuel injector loom and r/c gskt $150.00
1.10.10 (RHF guard, front bumper, grille, RH headlight replaced after accident with motorcyclist. Insurance repaired with used parts)
Repairs for 2010 - $1785 (total 1860.00)
2011
Jan 2011 Ignition barrel rebuild $150.00
14.2.11 Trans Service 144,ooo $120
And Oil pump bolt and sump gasket $40.00
18.4.11 All coolant hoses 145,000 $400.00 (subtotal $710)
12.7.11 Fuel Cooler o-rings 154,000 $20.00
20.7.11 2nd hand fuel pump 154088km $394.00 incl filter
(took 2nd hnd pump back 10 days later and got brand new pump +340.00 difference.
Purchased water pump and fan belt $225.00
August 2011 4 x Pirelli Scorpion Tyres $1200.00
Repairs for 2011 = $1569.00 (+1860= 3429.00)
2012
Feb 2012 Battery $260.00
May 2012 Water pump, fan belt and idler bearing fitted
17.5.12 Belt tensioner, RHR ABS sensor purchased $235.00
4.6.12 RH Engine mount $175.00
6.6.12 Fitted engine mount, tensioner and LHF ABS sensor 178,000km
5.7.12 Tom Woods front shaft $600.00
29.10.12 Head reconditioned and new gasket. 186,000km
Parts from PCB Gaskets, Head Bolts, Radiator, EGR, MAF, T/Stat, Coolant, Engine Saver, pads, rear discs$2400.00
Lonsdale Engine Worx $ 500.00
Sprint Aberfoyle Oils and misc $ 320.00
Head GasketTotal $3220.00
23.12.12 Major Service – oil, trans service and filter, air filter, diff oils, transfer case oil.
Replace transmission cooler pipes 189,000km $200.00
Total repair costs for 2012 = $4690.00 (+3429= $8120.00)
2013
13.9.13 Crank Damper Pulley and seal 207,000km $ 580.00
17.9.13 Spare fuel pump 2nd hand $ 120.00
27.9.13 Oil and Filter, Air Filter 208,000km $ 140.00
2.11.13 Tyres 212,000 $1000.00
15.11.13 FPR Diaphram 213.000km $ 80.00
15.11.13 Starter Contacts $ 88.00
Total Repairs for 2013 = $2008.00 (+ 8120.00 = $10,128.00 – tyres = 9128.00)
2014
Jan 2014 SLABS ECU 2nd hand (spare) $ 50.00
14.4.14 Nanocom and mount ordered $ 486.00
16.4.14 2014 RHF ABS sensor (long lead OEM) 222,000km $ 180.00
Total 2014 ytd = $ 716.00
Total Repairs from 17.4.09- 17.4.14 -$ 9128.00+$716.00 =$9844.00
12,000 – 9844 = $2156!! Ahead after 5 years of D2a td5 ownership according to my rubbery calculations (not to mention the blood, sweat and tears).
I reckon this is probably typical of D2a td5 ownership.
Would I do it again? Yeah, probably, we go to the Flinders in it most years and have never been let down. I couldn't do LR ownership without all the support and advice from AULRO dot COM!! She's eyeing off a D4 now, but she has to keep this for another 5 years. Next vehicle purchased will be for me!
Thanks Dave
Last edited by Davetd5; 18th April 2014 at 09:42 PM. Reason: Poor maths skills 12,000 - 9844 is not 1156!!
A good read. Your calcs do not take into account a single cent spent on the Prado in the example though, so you are a lot further ahead than you think...
Regards, Will
Stornoway Grey '09 D3 TDV6 SE, 2015 TERRITORY Engine at 348k
LLAMS, FYRLYTS, OL D4 Bar
Safari Snorkel, D4 hitch, ARB CKMA12
Thanks, yes I'm aware of that. Any vehicle owned over 5 years would need brakes, tyres, a battery and belts and hoses for a start. I wanted to make it a worse kind of scenario thing!
Yes, interesting reading that, thanks for posting. To be honest though an engine saver and a nano com are upgrades not maintenance.
How do you reckon it works out including depreciation?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
comparing a D2a to a 120 playdo is like comparing a Fibroadenoma to a Type 3c ductal carcinoma.
Who cares what it costs YOU WIN!
ps the last good "disco" was a D2a
Steve
(D1 owner from a hundred years ago who realised that a 130 had found him)
(pps I like boobies)
'95 130 dual cab fender (gone to a better universe)
'10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)
Have I told you a story about chainsaws yet?
S
'95 130 dual cab fender (gone to a better universe)
'10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)
As far as depreciation goes, what was a $40k 120 is now around $25k, what was a $28k D2a td5 is around $15k, so both have lost a similar amount, on average the Prado a few grand more. Used prices on each seem to vary a fair bit but that's an average for where I live.
I'd say an engine saver is a must. A nanocom saves me having to go hunting for a code reader/ clearer every time an abs sensor packs in (3 so far) so more convenience thing.
I like boobies too, but only from the outside. Thankfully I haven't had to deal with lumps, bumps and carcinomas with any of my nearest and dearest. I would much prefer a LR to cancer!
You've thrown one hell of a lot more into your TD5 that what mines had over the last 5 years with regards to maintenance.
Cheers
Slunnie
~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~
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