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    If it was the TC the warning should have came on briefly and feel like it's braking

    There are some recommendations in RAVE - Owners handbooks - Driving and operating, according to the builder what ever you do "DO NOT
    attempt to use LOW range gears for normal road driving."


    also at Off -road driving is stated :
    "Driving Techniques
    DRIVING ON SOFT SURFACES & DRY
    SAND

    The ideal technique for driving on soft surfaces
    (dry sand for example) requires the vehicle to
    be kept moving at all times - soft sand causes
    excessive drag on the wheels resulting in a
    rapid loss of motion once driving momentum is
    lost. For this reason, gear changing
    (particularly on manual gearbox vehicles)
    should be avoided.
    Select the highest suitable gear and REMAIN in
    that gear until a firm surface is reached. It is
    generally advisable to use LOW range gears, as
    they will enable you to accelerate through
    worsening conditions without the risk of being
    unable to restart."


    but as we all know life is sometimes different than the theory so it's more about experience IMO
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlecell View Post
    I have found in my car using low range I get quick a long whining noise at around 40km/h. Is this normal or is it looking like I have a TC issue?
    Does your transfer case have helical or straight cut gears in low range?
    Aaron

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    Ah I meant transfers case when I said tc. Not traction control. My mistake there.
    My concern is if this whine is something about to die I don't want to be in a low range needed situation to find out.

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    my manual not only allows for driving in low range on bitumen when towing it recommends it and explains how to change from low range to high whilst on the move. if you know what you are doing it works nicely shifting to high at 50kph.
    5 speed man

    cheers

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    according to the book and the transfer case description you might ruin the transfer box by shifting at such speeds
    Quote Originally Posted by Owner's handbooks - Transfer Gearbox -105
    Advanced method (Manual gearbox vehicles)
    Changing from high to low on the move:
    With the vehicle slowing to a stop and travelling
    NO FASTER THAN 5 mph (8 km/h), depress the
    clutch and push the transfer lever into neutral.
    Just before the road wheels stop turning (and
    with the clutch still depressed) push the lever
    fully forward into ‘L’ (low).
    NOTE: Use positive and confident moves, but
    do not rush the gear change.
    Changing from low to high on the move:
    Changing from ‘L’ (low) to ‘H’ (high) can be
    achieved without stopping the vehicle, as
    follows:
    1. Apply slight backward pressure to the
    transfer gear lever in preparation for
    changing.
    2. Then, in three simultaneous moves,
    depress the clutch, release the accelerator
    and pull the transfer lever into neutral.
    3. Release the clutch pedal for approximately
    3 seconds before depressing it again and
    moving the transfer lever firmly into the
    high position.
    4. Finally, select a suitable main gear, release
    the clutch and continue driving in the
    normal way.
    NOTE: After a little practice, this operation can
    be carried out smoothly and quickly by using
    firm, positive moves.

    On automatic models, reduce (or increase) the
    speed of the vehicle to 5 mph (8 km/h) and
    release the accelerator. Select ‘N’ and move the
    transfer lever quickly to the required ‘H’ or ‘L’
    position. Finally, reselect ‘D’ with the main gear
    selector and continue driving as normal.
    EDIT: Sorry ...just realised you said about shifting in HIGH not LOW...apologies
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    my manual not only allows for driving in low range on bitumen when towing it recommends it and explains how to change from low range to high whilst on the move. if you know what you are doing it works nicely shifting to high at 50kph.
    5 speed man

    cheers
    So when your using low range at 50 do you get any load whining sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlecell View Post
    Getting into 5th might be a hard gear for me since I drive an auto... I probably should have mentioned that.
    You sort of did in your original post. You used the term transmission which generally refers to an automatic transmission as opposed to gearbox which generally refers to a manual gearbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlecell View Post
    So when your using low range at 50 do you get any load whining sound?

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    Yes mate gear wine is present - wouldnt worry about it.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    according to the book and the transfer case description you might ruin the transfer box by shifting at such speeds

    EDIT: Sorry ...just realised you said about shifting in HIGH not LOW...apologies
    No problems mate - yes going into low is either stationary or walking pace - I prefer walking pace. If stationary and it wont sift from neutral (low box) to low, let the clutch out and then back in and shift - goes like butter then.

    CHEERS

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    I generally use low range in my D2 TD5 auto in soft dry sand like Stockton.

    My main reason for this is that the TD5 torque converter stall speed is 2800RPM.

    If you are driving at lesser revs than that the fewer the revs the more the Torque converter slip , and the greater the heat generated.

    If you can keep the motor at 3000rpm, then you are above the meaty torque band and the TC is stalled , so that when hitting some really soft stuff the motor can dig in and torque you through, and transmission temperature rise is reduced. They don't have that enormous cooler for nothing.

    I have no CDL but had no trouble on Stockton by listening to the Traction Control. When you hear the Traction control motor start up and the light comes on , you ease up a bit and usually the wheel speed will equalise. I found I could keep up with D3 /D4s and sometimes do better even with 18 inch wheels.
    I used to drive similarly in my 3.9 RRC particularly when towing my camper trailer on Stockton and other soft beaches , which was pretty worrying, but I kept above the stall speed which is 1800RPM in a V8, and had no bogging or other problem.

    Regards Philip A

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