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    Cast iron expansion

    Even after ten years I keep reading posts on TD5 exhaust manifolds blowing gaskets,,

    hundreds of posts,, nearly as many fixes,,

    or if you like-
    Tens of thousands of gaskets and exactly that many fixes

    many many more than the V8,,

    though the same "alloy head with cast iron manifold"
    applies,,

    is it heat?
    Just how much does a cast manifold grow when hot?

    and not just longitudinally along the ports,, but it should expand 360 degrees? so just as much against the stud nuts?? yes?

    Why does the V8 have the longer exhaust manifold expansion studs and barrels?

    Is it just a case of the TD5's being run over the factory exhaust temps?
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

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    schuy1 Guest
    Bit like the chook and the egg thingy Manifold heating and resulting expansion is a very complex scene. Now if the exhaust manifold was a nice square piece of cast iron with a nice round,central smooth sided hole through it, things would be great! every part would receive the same amount of heat with the resulting same rate of expansion!
    However manifolds are not neat pieces of cast iron. They have all sorts of curves, right angles, thin bits, thick bits and it goes on, the result of manufacturers cutting corners as much as possible . So no 2 will perform the same, even 2 for the same engine can vary in the castings.
    I suspect the shape of the TD5s is part of the problem, Long, tapering,with resulting difference in thickness and so heating variance and so resulting expansion rates. The V8s is short, and to an extant the same shape front to back. This will result in a more even distribution of heat, even though far from ideal.
    NOTE This is only my thoughts on a complex situation.
    Cheers Scott

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    V8s still have issues Pete. I've had to drill out some of their end holes slightly to allow correct alignment of the bolts when refitting. Also has plenty come loose at regular intervals from having bolts instead of studs. Seen the odd one crack too and lots (especially thor) with uneven heating discolouration .

    Jc
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