Thread: D2 Recovery Points

Originally Posted by gusthedog

ARB Crush cans have a 15 tonne working limit. If you're putting more force than that on your bullbar or chasis, crush cans are the least of your worries. Same cans for winch and non winch bar too.

That's a static rating not a dynamic rating, impulse is a bugger isnt it

Bit of a bump but looking for some clarification.
I have an ARB bullbar just like this one
Bar.jpg

And am trying to figure out where I can put some bow shackles or recovery points (just in case). I did have a bow shackle in the little loops either side of the winch, but figured that wouldnt get the job done as the bar doesnt seem very sturdy in that part.

I have this loop welded onto a bracket where the bar joins the chassis but also figure that inst gunna be safe either.
ring.jpg

I have found these Land Rover Discovery 1&2 HD Recovery Points (pair) MAXI-DRIVE
Does anyone know if they would work with this arrangement (there seems to be a big bar going from one side to the other which may block these.) Budget is tight so I cant be forking out hundreds $$ at the moment.
Or any other suggestions please?

Thanks
Mat

Originally Posted by Matg43

Bit of a bump but looking for some clarification.
I have an ARB bullbar just like this one
Bar.jpg

And am trying to figure out where I can put some bow shackles or recovery points (just in case). I did have a bow shackle in the little loops either side of the winch, but figured that wouldnt get the job done as the bar doesnt seem very sturdy in that part.

I have this loop welded onto a bracket where the bar joins the chassis but also figure that inst gunna be safe either.
ring.jpg

I have found these Land Rover Discovery 1&2 HD Recovery Points (pair) MAXI-DRIVE
Does anyone know if they would work with this arrangement (there seems to be a big bar going from one side to the other which may block these.) Budget is tight so I cant be forking out hundreds $$ at the moment.
Or any other suggestions please?

Thanks
Mat

Those recovery points look like they bolt onto the outside chassis where the crush cans are fitted and will probably be OK.
However as you already have a winch fitted why do you think that you Need the recovery points?

Originally Posted by Matg43

Bit of a bump but looking for some clarification.
I have an ARB bullbar just like this one
Bar.jpg

And am trying to figure out where I can put some bow shackles or recovery points (just in case). I did have a bow shackle in the little loops either side of the winch, but figured that wouldnt get the job done as the bar doesnt seem very sturdy in that part.

I have this loop welded onto a bracket where the bar joins the chassis but also figure that inst gunna be safe either.
ring.jpg

I have found these Land Rover Discovery 1&2 HD Recovery Points (pair) MAXI-DRIVE
Does anyone know if they would work with this arrangement (there seems to be a big bar going from one side to the other which may block these.) Budget is tight so I cant be forking out hundreds $$ at the moment.
Or any other suggestions please?

Thanks
Mat

That loop is a tie down point - I can not stress this enough - Do NOT use it for recovery.

That loop is a tie down point - I can not stress this enough - Do NOT use it for recovery.

+1

No , the loop is a towing point for light towing.

You can make towing/recovery points yourself as I have done by getting some 1/4 or 5/8 steel sheet, cutting to the shape of the triangle of the tow point, then drilling holes the same. It's pretty tedious with a reciprocating saw and grinder but it can be done.

The sleeves in the chassis will take up to AFAIR 12MM high tensile bolts so you have to be accurate with the holes. The normal 10Mm bolts are a bit light on to me. I would hope that the bought ones supply 12mm bolts as this IMHO is the weakest link.

You can then either drill a big hole in the steel for a shackle or fit "Toyota" tow hooks with their supplied high tensile bolts as I have done..

I have made two of these. I found a cover plate on Stockton Beach that some 4wd had fall off so I have the lot hidden by covers on both sides.

I also bought an equalizer strap for heavy pulls or to use my Warn 6500Lb portable winch.

Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by Matg43

And am trying to figure out where I can put some bow shackles or recovery points (just in case). I did have a bow shackle in the little loops either side of the winch, but figured that wouldnt get the job done as the bar doesnt seem very sturdy in that part.

That was ARB's recovery point when they released that bar. That part directly pulls through to the chassis (via the crush cans) and is stronger than it looks.

It wasn't until later that ARB decided that due to people recovering stupidly that they weren't going to support calling that eyelet a recovery point as far as I'm aware.

If the crush cans are not strong enough (eg LC100 I think it might be???), the engineer the crush cans with a higher tension strength to suit but with a lower compression strength for the SRS. There were none of these probs with the Disco2.

My feeling is that the aftermarket recovery points for the D2 that drop down low under the bullbar are not as strong as the ARB bar points due to bolt shear forces.

Originally Posted by trout1105

Those recovery points look like they bolt onto the outside chassis where the crush cans are fitted and will probably be OK.
However as you already have a winch fitted why do you think that you Need the recovery points?

I know if I dont have em ill need em. Ive legitimately never been off road so just trying to cover all bases.
ill have the Mrs and 2 daughters with me