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    Sealing the head gasket options

    Disco 2003 4.0 V8

    My cylinder head gasket has blown on cylinders 3 and 5

    Stripdown revealed loose head bolts (front 2 long bolts) which may have contributed. The gasket was replaced by the previous owner 5,000 Km ago.

    The gasket looks like this

    gasket.jpg

    The problem is that the block where this leak occurred is now pitted. It has the same pattern as the gasket mesh which I assume has been chattering on the block.

    I'm not inspired to go to the expense of repairing/replacing the block, and wonder if there is something else I can try? My only alternative is to sell her for spares or repairs which seems a shame.

    I've read that gasket compounds such as Hylomar are NOT recommended in normal circumstances (which mine are not)

    Any advice is welcome.

    Cheers ... Fizz

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    Are you certain that the block is pitted Or is it that the gasket has adhered to the block?
    If the gasket has adhered to the block then all you will have to do is clean it up hopefully .
    There are some products that you can use to "Fill" the pot marks as well, usually 2 part ali putty .
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    That's possible. I'll have to have a good look. If something has adhered it is aluminium. I've tried scratching it off with a finger nail, but felt solid. I'll try a scotch brite pad.

    If I use a putty will I be able to get it perfectly flat? Do you know anyone who has done this?

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    why not Hylomar?

    and the compression gas has caused the gasket to flutter pitting the head? seriously? wow...
    how long has this been going on for?

    as for flatness, only a mill will do that.
    and if you go to that extent,, why not mill the pits out?
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    get some razor blades and use them t scrap the surface clean
    if its pitted is it on the ring that seals the combustion chamber to the block or behind it where its not really doing a lot?
    you if your worried you could try putting some areldite to fill the holes then sand it back flat once hard.

    unless the gasket comes with a coating on it i always put hylomar on them and even gaskets that have coatings on vehicles know for head gasket issues ill put hylomar on over the gasket glue on the gasket just for extra insurance

    for the bolts to comes loose id say they reused the head bolts or the head was not sitting flat on the block when done up

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonsy View Post
    get some razor blades and use them t scrap the surface clean
    if its pitted is it on the ring that seals the combustion chamber to the block or behind it where its not really doing a lot?
    you if your worried you could try putting some areldite to fill the holes then sand it back flat once hard.

    unless the gasket comes with a coating on it i always put hylomar on them and even gaskets that have coatings on vehicles know for head gasket issues ill put hylomar on over the gasket glue on the gasket just for extra insurance

    for the bolts to comes loose id say they reused the head bolts or the head was not sitting flat on the block when done up
    Interesting on the Hylomar topic. I have always been told not to used sealant on head gaskets. personally I don't like Hylomar anyway, have had a few failures where it is stated by LR to use. Find Three Bond products much better, but a lot more expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Interesting on the Hylomar topic. I have always been told not to used sealant on head gaskets. personally I don't like Hylomar anyway, have had a few failures where it is stated by LR to use. Find Three Bond products much better, but a lot more expensive.
    I was told by the cometic guy I purchased the mls gaskets from to use hylomar,,

    got poo poo'd something firece on here when i mentioned I'd used it,,

    The proof is in the pudding as they say,,,

    I actually have a lot of time for 3 Bond too
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    Sealing head gaskets

    A guy who served his apprenticeship under Harry firth in the race car shop told me they used Araldite to seal head gaskets. He said they lightly smeared the mating surfaces with light oil so the assembly was no glued together. The purpose of the thick layer of Araldite was to fill voids where water or gases may get through and cause gasket failure.

    Sounded drastic to me but he assured it was their normal practice and it worked. Knowing Firth's cunning and reputation, it must have been a working safe solution.
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    Waiting for JC the Guru to comment on this as I will be pulling my head off next week.
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