Thread: D2 centre muffler removal

Originally Posted by sierrafery

If you want noticeable difference fit a de-cat downpipe

how noticable a difference?

You'll see if you fit one ... depends on how clogged the catalyst is

Originally Posted by shack

To be perfectly honest, I think the EU3 engines were a little bit more fuel efficient, and can make a little bit more Torque as well, whether you would notice this or not is debatable, but they are definitely quite similar, EU3 is a dog when the MAF is stuffed, EU2 not really affected .

Cheers
James

Agree,i had '99,'02,and '04,D2,all bought new.

The '04 D2a was one of the best vehicles i ever owned,fantastic on fuel,just a great all round, go anywhere,comfortable, reliable vehicle.It was a 5 seater,coils all corners.
We did a lot of remote area exploring trips,not an issue.
Even the OEM suspension was bloody good,but eventually replaced it with Bilstein shocks and King coils,i think they were,all good again.
One vehicle we should never have sold.

Originally Posted by scarry

Agree,i had '99,'02,and '04,D2,all bought new.

The '04 D2a was one of the best vehicles i ever owned,fantastic on fuel,just a great all round, go anywhere,comfortable, reliable vehicle.It was a 5 seater,coils all corners.
We did a lot of remote area exploring trips,not an issue.
Even the OEM suspension was bloody good,but eventually replaced it with Bilstein shocks and King coils,i think they were,all good again.
One vehicle we should never have sold.

Paul, when you get really misty eyed you can come for a run or borrow mine.
Although mine is 'only' an '02.

Originally Posted by scarry

Agree,i had '99,'02,and '04,D2,all bought new.

The '04 D2a was one of the best vehicles i ever owned,fantastic on fuel,just a great all round, go anywhere,comfortable, reliable vehicle.It was a 5 seater,coils all corners.
We did a lot of remote area exploring trips,not an issue.
Even the OEM suspension was bloody good,but eventually replaced it with Bilstein shocks and King coils,i think they were,all good again.
One vehicle we should never have sold.

I've still got both....every time I trade up,I forget to do the actual "trade" bit..

It's amazing the amount of almost unseen changes between the model years, one of the only major headaches that didn't get fixed is the back door hinges/catch/dust sealing, could have done with a bit of remodeling.

Interestingly, land rovers own data shows the EU3 producing more power from the same amount of fuel, the benefit of better atomized fuel I guess. I don't know if they ever updated the power output on the sales docs or just de tuned to the same as the early ones, actually I'll go have a look...

Cheers
James

Originally Posted by shack

Interestingly, land rovers own data shows the EU3 producing more power from the same amount of fuel, the benefit of better atomized fuel I guess. I don't know if they ever updated the power output on the sales docs or just de tuned to the same as the early ones, actually I'll go have a look...

James - this is because the fuel consumption tests follow a set routine at fixed acceleration rates and speeds and as such never use full throttle or available power.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

James - this is because the fuel consumption tests follow a set routine at fixed acceleration rates and speeds and as such never use full throttle or available power.

I think either you've misunderstood me...or I've misunderstood you... Either way,

What I was referring to...and I went and checked, is that the EU3 produces more Torque per mm3 of fuel injected, that's if the info I have is correct.

However , without going fully in depth through the fuel mapping and limiters and corrections, at a quick glance the EU3 would outperform the EU2 based on the specs on paper.

Which is roughly 11 nm .....324 vs 335

I've found this to ring true, so more power for less fuel.

But this could all be with corrupt data!

Cheers
James

I am with you now - I wonder if this is related to having a larger intercooler as well.