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Thread: TD5: Oil on back of rear brake disk

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    TD5: Oil on back of rear brake disk

    Hi everyone

    I noticed some oil on the back of the passenger side rear brake disk. Thinking this was leaking caliper seal, I replaced the caliper. I noticed today that I have oil again on the back of the disk. The joins for the brake pipe and caliper are dry so I'm pretty sure it's not the caliper. The brake fluid level seems to be constant.

    The oil on the disk is black and sticky, like grease, but there's obviously a lot of brake dust and road dirt involved here.

    Is it possible that the hub could be causing the problem? I notice on RAVE that there is an O ring behind the hub.

    Cheers

    Andy

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    Your hub seal is leaking.

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    So is the oil leaking out of the rear diff then? The actual hub won't be affected?

    I am right in thinking that this is an ok job to fix?

    Cheers

    Andy

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    Andy,

    I guess you have a Disco then? If so the hub is usually the culprit, not the O ring. Usually the inner seal goes and the diff oil washes the grease from the hub bearing out to the disc etc. The bearing is non replaceable, the hub has an integral ABS sensor ring and bearing and a new hub will be required. The O ring is very rarely the problem unfortunately, the sticky black stuff is actually the hub grease from INSIDE the hub as oil isn't a problem for the bearings life span, it won't FAIL, but the oil, as you noticed, gets all over the brake pads eventually. As the Oring is only an outer seal to the axle housing is possibly not the issue in this case. I recently had to replace a PAIR of rear hubs on one D2 because they wouldn't stop leaking.
    Also, check the diff breather.

    Warning, new hubs DO NOT come with a new O ring, so make sure you order one when getting a hub.


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    Last edited by justinc; 21st September 2008 at 07:09 AM. Reason: Remove the reference to a Defender as Andy has a D2. and add diff breather advice
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    Yeah hub seal leaking, happened on my brother in laws.

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    hub seal failure if you already have the oil fed bearing converson

    hubs seal and stub seal failure if you dont.

    In my case they forgot to install the stub seal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Andy,


    Also, check the diff breather.


    JC
    Thanks for the info guys.

    Sounds pretty grim then if I need a new hub! There's a slim chance though that the diff breather could be blocked and blowing oil past the seals?

    How do you check the diff breather? I've seen it on the RAVE diagram. Is it just a no brainer, checking for dirt at the breather outlet?

    Cheers

    Andy

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    Please just note that some of the responses above do not relate to the Disco2 axle.
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    Me too

    My D2 is having exact same problem same side. found it when I replaced all the rotors and pads. I degreased it and left the old pads in for the time being .

    Should I replace the hub on the other side and the front as well. This vehicle has now done 130,000ks. I recently decided (due to the current economic climate) to keep the old girl for a few more years .

    *Does any one know many K,s I should get out of a clutch dont drive it hard.
    *How will I know when that front drive shaft starts to go.
    *How much are the hubs worth each and a clutch kit?

    Once the above work is done I will feel a lot more confident to travel off the beaten track.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikecmb View Post
    My D2 is having exact same problem same side. found it when I replaced all the rotors and pads. I degreased it and left the old pads in for the time being .

    Should I replace the hub on the other side and the front as well. This vehicle has now done 130,000ks. I recently decided (due to the current economic climate) to keep the old girl for a few more years .

    *Does any one know many K,s I should get out of a clutch dont drive it hard.
    *How will I know when that front drive shaft starts to go.
    *How much are the hubs worth each and a clutch kit?

    Once the above work is done I will feel a lot more confident to travel off the beaten track.

    Mike
    Hi Mike ...

    as for the clutch - the dual mass flywheel protects this. I had to remove the gearbox on my S2 TD5 Disco at 180.000kms, The clutch and pressure plate were still in very good condition. A replacement was about $500 (clutch, pressure plate and thrust race)

    as for the front tail shaft, have greasable unis fitted before it fails. These are relatively inexpensive compared to the alternatives - I know of someone whose failed at 50,000kms

    as for the hubs - they seem to be very reliable - don't know the new price, but if you need some good low kms second hand hubs, I know of someone selling some on Ebay at present

    Erich

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