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I pondered this being guilty of it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
I’ve arrived at the conclusion it’s just a product of human nature.. more tyre, more lift, more power… etc etc.
Everyone says “fit a 2” lift and some bigger rubber, it’ll help you clear obstacles”
But will it? Sure… up until the next size obstacle comes along!
Sure. All the 37" Patrols make ruts that render the tracks impassable to anyone else. Solution? 38" obviously. there are Jeeps in the US on 42"s ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
People also forget that it's an entire package, When I first got my Series it had big tyres on it. Boy did it look tough. But, it was hopeless. The poor engine struggled to turn the things, but worse, and this is the worst bit, it simply wouldn't stop.
I had 38" Michelin XML on the OKA. Same thing. Needed low range to get up my driveway, and was bloody dangerous under brakes. Looked cool though. It's back on 35's now. You wouldn't think that a 1.5" change in radius would make that much difference, but it does. Archimedes knew his stuff.
Now, I know an OKA or a LR Series 3 is not a modern 4WD, but the principles apply. Those guys spend $Billions on R&D. It's also why increases in tyre size by more than a certain % without engineering is illegal.
Yep I find 31 to 32 inch is a great size for the vehicles I have had, although some tracks do get very difficult where vehicles with bugger tyres regularly go causing very deep ruts. Cheers
That pretty well sums up my thoughts.
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/goodbye-land-rover/
That was a good read. Stimulates lots of thoughtsQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
Purcell could get a job playing the violin.
My 2008 Defender has many a part labelled FOMOCO. My 2023 Defender parts are labelled Jaguar Land Rover
Vehicles don't have souls but their owners do. There are plenty of passionate new Defender owners out there who recognize and appreciate what Jaguar Land Rover has produced. Many have never owned a Land Rover before.
The Grenadier will have to gather a similar following.
The guy doing some fencing at our place just bought a RAM with leather seats and retractable side steps. It tows his twin axle trailer with ease. Toyota was dismissed, Land Rover wasn't even on the radar....what's a Grenadier?
The fencer doing a huge job across the road pulls his large dual axle trailer with a TD5 130.He has had it from new.Quote:
Originally Posted by one_iota
He said there is nothing else around that will pull the weight all day, every day,and is legal,except the bigger US utes but he doesnt like them.I didnt mention Grenadier,nor did he.
I often see a Perentie around here pulling a huge trailer with a large digger on it,there is actually a pic of it in one of my posts somewhere on here.
I would have to tax a Grenadier as a private vehicle, even if I bought the commercial variant. The yearly road tax would be €2,400 or 3,903.12AUD. The two seat would start at €71,995 or .117,063 AUD. We would need the middle row for our daughter so the price goes up. The five seat starts at €99,995 or 162,601 AUD. Those prices are for the base models.I think I can safely say I will not be in the market for one, but like I said I do like them.It is coming in cheaper than the new Defender but the annual road tax is the same
My 110 200tdi comes at a yearly road tax of €56 or 91.07 AUD. as it is now classed as vintage.
Limited to selling 6k a year in the UK, going to a slow seller then ?
Australia had an allocation of 1,000 vehicles. So Uk 6,000 plus Australia 1,000 totals 7k vehicles. With total production from factory when fully up to speed of 25k vehicles where are the other 18k vehicles going to?
Are the seat bases removable? That was a great idea from Land Rover.