A mini offroad test by Robert Pepper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTgu...per-autojourno
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A mini offroad test by Robert Pepper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTgu...per-autojourno
They seem biased to me but interesting nonetheless. Never knew about those high flow nozzles! The one thing I take away is that the car rides really well for a solid axle specimen which is pleasing to hear, can't wait for more real world reviews. Also, I hope many people will buy them :) since that makes for a decent second hand market a few years down the road [bigwhistle]Quote:
Originally Posted by one_iota
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I'm pretty confident they are going to be offering discounts on the cars once the initial orders are filled.Quote:
Originally Posted by spudfan
Came across this.
Ineos Grenadier BEV Expected To Have At Least 249 Miles Of Range
The battery-electric Grenadier is being tested alongside a hydrogen fuel-cell variant.
Ineos, the British conglomerate that started producing off-roaders in 2022, has promised its first all-electric vehicle will have "at least" 249 miles of range. Ineos already offers a combustion-engined version of the Grenadier, with battery-electric and hydrogen fuel-cell versions currently being tested.
Speaking with Australian outlet Carsales, Ineos Automotive CEO Lynn Calder promised the firm's first battery electric vehicle will deliver a minimum of 400 kilometers (249 miles) of range. The electric Grenadier will be built by Magna Steyr, the same manufacturing firm that builds the Fisker Ocean.
Ineos Automotive is part of a much wider group of companies, all owned by British billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe. Primarily concerned with the chemical industry, Ratcliffe decided to launch Ineos Automotive when he saw a gap in the market for an authentic off-roader. With billions in funding straight away Ineos Automotive was able to grow quickly and started building its first vehicle, the Grenadier, last year.
As you may have guessed, Ratcliffe imagined the Grenadier as a modernized yet still authentic Land Rover Defender. Unimpressed with the L663 Defender, Ratcliffe wanted to provide consumers with a more original off-roader that still featured plenty of modern technology.
The battery-electric Grenadier won't arrive until 2026 however, with the automaker keen to take its time with its first EV. Meanwhile, a hydrogen fuel-cell variant may not arrive until even later. The traditionally-powered Grenadier is currently available in Europe and will launch in Australia later this year. A US release is currently set for the first quarter of 2024. The ICE Grenadier will start at $71,500 in America. Hence we would expect a fully electric variant to cost in the region of $85,000.
Also thAndrei Nedelea From an EV site link
By: Andrei Nedelea
Smaller Ineos 4x4 Coming With Fully Electric Powertrain
Ineos is a brand new company started by chemical engineer and billionaire Jim Ratcliffe who wanted to keep the spirit of the old Land Rover Defender alive after the new model went in quite a different direction. He’s investing over $1-billion into this project, whose first model, the Ineos Grenadier, is set to start deliveries very soon, but now we’ve found one report that the company is also planning to go electric.
Autocar says the news that the company was working on an EV was confirmed to the publication by Ratcliffe himself, who announced that the first electric model would not be an electric version of the already revealed Grenadier hardcore off-roader (pictured). Instead, they will opt to give electric power to a smaller model, possibly a three-door, that will not share underpinnings with the Grenadier and it will be built on an all-new platform, according to the source.
And even though it will be electric, the new Ineos model will be cheaper than the gasoline- or diesel-burning Grenadier, although Ratcliffe didn’t mention by how much. It should be a lot like the short-wheelbase Defender 90 model (also a three-door) and it won’t be sold as a more posh vehicle, but the company will imbue it with the same workhorse spirit present in its other product (which it will sell in both passenger and commercial versions).
The idea of Jim Ratcliffe replicating the Defender may face tough competition as the 4x4 market is already saturated. Success will depend on uniqueness and meeting specific customer demand Car buyer Brisbane
The idea of Jim Ratcliffe replicating the Defender may face tough competition as the 4x4 market is already saturated. Success will depend on uniqueness and meeting specific customer demands.
I'm trying not to be a grumpy old git :) but a BEV grenadier is as ridiculous as a BEV old skool defender, it won't work for what it's intended use was/is. Now, I am not sure if this is going to help us since they will be selling plenty of these to the greenies in the cities and thus keep the brand up and allow them to keep on building the ICE variants or if it detracts and sets them on a path to becoming the new land rover indeed, just a soccer moms car. I am hoping for the first!
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There has been a new 78 series released today with some upgrades. Most notably a 2.8 turbo diesel with automatic. I believe this cars official release in Australia is september. If they get the price and supply right I really think this is going to impact Grenadier sales.
There has also been a new car released in the US which they believe will be the Australian prado. Looks pretty good.
If only Toyota did a decent PHEV hybrid system to go with it.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
Oh dear, they’re inflicting more people with the crappy and thirsty 1DG 2.8 litre. The V8 remains ‘for the time being’ is code for ‘The hot v v8 design is bloody aweful and we’re discontinuing it as soon as we can get our suckers - I mean customers, used to the 4 cylinder engine and by that time we can drop the 70 series altogether and consign it to history where it belongs’Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
Can’t wait for my new car to arrive so I can get out of a Hilux for the first time in 10 years.