Sounds realistic. I would have thought 9-10l/100km would be possible. So should get 800km from 90lt tank. My prev L322 tdv8 with ZF HP26 would get that on the HW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme
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Sounds realistic. I would have thought 9-10l/100km would be possible. So should get 800km from 90lt tank. My prev L322 tdv8 with ZF HP26 would get that on the HW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme
When I bought my TD5 they were selling 150-200 a year annually in Aus. So there is not a lot of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Deefa
Not surprising.... after all, it is a very keen Defender owning farmer who's decided that since JLR weren't going to manufacture the Defender any more that he'd build his own![bigsmile]. I'm not so sure that many classic 'Defender' owners will suddenly divest their vehicles when they take delivery of their IGs ... to be kept for special occasions perhaps? [thumbsupbig]Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
Well I've seen my 1st Grenadier on an Australian road of sorts, while watching the Men's Nat'l Road Cycling Champs on TV held in Ballarat on 8th Jan, I spotted two Grenadiers, one silver, one dark green beside the road on Mt Buninyong, about 11 or 12kms from the finish line, I saw them a few times as it was a multiple lap format, won by Luke Plapp from the Ineos Grenadier team.
I think I saw one on the opposite carriage way on the Hume heading home from Sydney the other day, caught sight of some alpine lights and they weren't on a Defender so I'm assuming a Grenadier, unfortunately I only got a fleeting glimpse.
Regards,
Tote
So I had a good look over one yesterday. Didn't get to drive it. My thoughts are (in context of my 110 wagon).
The interior is awesome. Plenty of room comfortable. All we ever wanted in a real defender replacement. Basic but with fixed ergonomics. Brilliant.
The cargo area though.. it's nearly half a metre shorter than my 110. It is fabulously big and square though with minimal wheel arches and great access through the two doors. The reduction in volume will cause me issues though.
In off roading type considerations. It's a little lower than the 110 (although it's effectively lifted). Putting the steering damper as the lowest point at the front is an interesting choice. Everything does look solid and well built though. Where they route the exhaust over a crossmember might be a fire hazard in spinifex.
In summary as a package in terms of space and layout it reminds me greatly of a D2 which is not a bad thing. My issue is we do desert crossings with up to five people .. which in the defender is nothing short of an ordeal. But at least I can fit the stuff. In the Grenadier it would be a lot more comfy but I'm going to have to have a serious think about the packing. And then there is the issue of the 90l tank.. which means I'm going to have to stash a heap of fuel somewhere. Hopefully the aftermarket comes up with something quickly.
Either that or leave some kids home.
Leave the kids at home. They'd probably be happier looking at their phones!Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
Yes I know what you mean. The defender is so thin in places like the doors and rear tub. The doors are only a couple of inches thick. The rear tub not even a couple of mm thick. Having substantial seals, some sort of soundproofing and metal there to support the roof etc takes up space.
It's virtually the same length over all. It's just that the packaging of the grenadier gives space back to the occupants. The defender might have been fine in the late 40's and 50's for a short journey around the farm or into town - but it's woefully inadequate for carrying 4/5 six footers for 3500k to the start of your trip. There would be no point to it if it replicated the packaging mistakes of the LR. Fortunately the roof loading is quite high.. much higher than the defender so can probably utilise that space more. The defender body structure.. is frankly terrifying. Close the door and watch the body wobble. The grenadier isn't like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deefa
On average, people are quite a bit taller than they were then. At 6'1" I was considered tall for my generation. I'm a pipsqueak these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
In an earlier post you mentioned it reminded you of a D2 in packaging terms. I find my D2 to be lacking in driver's leg room, although I found one I borrowed with the HSE spec to be fine. How is the Grenadier there?
So I'm 186, so is my son. I set the drivers seat to where I think I would like it and we both had legroom aplenty front and rear. I didn't get to drive it though.. maybe I'd prefer it a bit further back on a long trip. There was plenty of room still for even tall back seat occupants though. That's promising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins
Contrast this to the 110. On the way back from Ayers Rock in June.. I've got my seat moved forward to give more space and still I've got a variable lumbar support with his knee prodding me in the back. A real trial for five days of driving.
One thing though.. there is a drivers footrest that is actually space for the cat I'm told. Some people might want that area to stretch. I think I'm ok with it but some people won't like it.
When I said "reminds me of a D2"... what I meant was more the fact that it's a far more comfortable body strapped on top of what was essentially defender underpinnings. But the packaging is reminiscent too. I think from memory though it's probably slightly bigger in the passenger area and the boot although I haven't been that close to a D2 in a while.
I was really surprised about the back seat. Three big people and it was suuuper comfy.