Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

Good point Tins,

It was what they wanted to design, just not what we wanted. Great if you were probably a D3/D4 driver.

Envious of your OKA! But yes not a daily. My tdi/80 series are my daily drivers, but I've been worn down over the years. I reckon the Grenadier would handle this duty well.

As for space, with a growing family I may consider a trailer for certain circumstances. I share your aversion. Everything Is a compromise. I baulk at over-laden rigs these days though... just stay home if you're going to take the house.

Agreed, while competitively priced, not inexpensive by any means. Would probably be the only vehicle I'll ever buy new. The Tdi will stay if I can manage it.

Cheers,

Mules

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just stay home if you're going to take the house.



Mules

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40 or so years ago I worked for a bloke, styled himself as a businessman, bit more of an Arfur Dailey without the charm. This was in North Sydney. He used to brag about taking his holidays in Hong Kong. He would stay at the Sheraton, and only go out to go to the westernised restaurants. I asked him why the **** would you do that? There was a Sheraton right there in Sydney, and Dixon Street in Sydney had fabulous Chinese restaurants.

Same principle. If you are going to take it with you, why go?

My aversion to towing is simply that I did it for so long.

Hi Mules,
thank you very much for taking the time to provide detailed feedback, it's most appreciated! :BigThumb:
I watched the chap on YouTube (LR Workshop and Expedition?) who claims extensive experience with LR Defenders. He crawled around under the Ineos (sans camera) during one of the UK exhibition days, and commented that there were several service repairs which he estimated would take 'several hours' on the Defender but could be done "in minutes" on the Grenadier! He didn't detail what they were... just expressed his admiration as to how things had been 'laid out'. Which made me wonder if in that vein, Ineos might just put a blue plate over the "Ad Blue" filler and reprogram the engine so it's not needed...as apparently BMW have done on some models of the diesel X5... one less constraint/complication. I'm past the age of crawling under vehicles [bigsad] but it points to reduced maintenance costs...
The border uncertainties must be playing havoc trying to balance test and marketing schedules ...I'm surprised they seemingly brought just one vehicle "Downunder".
I wait with anticipation to see whether they make it to Qld.
Thanks again
Hoges

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Wow.

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Hi Mules,...............................
The border uncertainties must be playing havoc trying to balance test and marketing schedules ...I'm surprised they seemingly brought just one vehicle "Downunder".
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That shows how confident they are regarding it's reliability, no need for a 'backup' vehicle.

I think it will be great. However the load carrying capacity doesn't suit me (roof load and tie downs are fantastic however it upsets balance of you go heavy up there and it is exposed). Having said that perhaps down the track when its just the 2 of us on tour i could go back to D2 size cargo capacity and then it would work well...hold on I have a D2...mmm[emoji23]. Cheers

In the pic looking in through the rear door, what is that on the roof?

I saw the prototype on Thursday. Very impressed. The guys there seemed very proud of it, one particular fella I spoke to used to design for LR.
Inside wise the boot seems a similar size to our D4.
Of note is that the dual cab ute will be on a longer wheelbase, and they are planning on doing a 7 seat wagon on that long wheelbase, which means big interior space if that's what you need.

Personally I think that it's brilliant and is absolutely what LR should have done with the Defender. I think that if they are good reliability wise (and should be, they're giving a 5 year unlimited km warranty) then it will be a perfect modern equivalent. I also think that it has the potential to sway many 70 series cruiser owners. Obviously the die hard 70 series guys won't switch, but having an auto box, coil springs all round and an interior not from 1998 is hard to argue with.

The prototype is currently not driving due to a computer part which has to be coded to the vehicle, and they didn't send any of the diagnostic machines here, so bits had to go to and from the head office.

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In the pic looking in through the rear door, what is that on the roof?

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At the back door aperture? That's the latch for the back doors.
In between driver and passenger seats on the roof there is a switch panel with diff locks etc, and aux switches that you can wire your own things into.

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At the back door aperture? That's the latch for the back doors.

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Ahh, of course. Split rear doors. Silly me.