Google and you'll find loads of info.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed
Colin
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Google and you'll find loads of info.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed
Colin
Given Australia's current roll out speed of EV charging stations how long do you think it would take to have a network of hydrogen fill stations? :-)Quote:
I want one…but…
BUT is there an EV or Hydrogen version on the way?
Yeah, I also love that interior !
Mike
Catch 22, until there is a demand why would companies install them ?Quote:
Originally Posted by speleomike
Seems we're up to four stations already [bighmmm] long way to go......but to be fair they are still for research vehicles as there are only two car models that run on hydrogen at present.
Hydrogen cars: CSIRO to build Australia’s fourth, Melbourne’s second refuelling point | CarAdvice
Colin
Remember when LPG started out - you couldn't really get it anywhere and I remember when the local farm supply got an LPG tank and bowser in - jetsons type stuff I thought but now this is all so commonplace. I think Hydrogen would be easier to get out there than EV charging stations as you only need a normal electric supply for fuel bowsers, but huge electrical infrastructure for any decent EV charging - which is a much larger challenge and much more expensive - particularly as you get more remote. This is why I think battery powered EV's are only a step in the development of the tech until fuel cells and their support networks roll out and I don't think battery powered EV's will end up being the be all and end all of transport but part of a mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by speleomike
Given the EV tech as far as motors, control, etc will fit a fuel cell model, then it's not wasted tech, but just a step along the way to something more that will make more sense to a lot of people. Both Battery and Fuel cell EV's will live happily side by side eventually I think.
Both Charging points and Hydrogen will become much more available in the coming years and in 25 to 30 years we'll wonder what all the fuss was about.
I should think if the company can sell plenty of the original diesel variant and they stay profitable long enough (A big ask I think) then an EV or fuel celled version would come at some stage - 5 to 10 years if the company is still around would be my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed
So my only gripe with the Grenadier is no manual gearbox?
They rabbit on about built on purpose and the videos with NGO use in remote locations etc.
*A modern manual gearbox doesnt require electronics or engine input data to function (unlike a modern automatic transmission).
*When some local driver leaves the key on or the lights on and the battery goes flat, a manual gearbox can be roll started, push started by half a dozern locals, bumped by another vehicle.
*Generally if a manual gearbox fails you often have at least one gear somewhere that lets you keep going.
*Show me any NGO mechanic that could pull apart an auto in the middle of no-where with dust and hobble it back together enough to get it moving again.
*if the clutch takes a dump you again can start in gear, get it going in some form.
A 76 series Land Cruiser with the old straight 6 as offered in africa or middle east to me still seems like a better vehicle for NGO or remote use.
Hi
I think this is spot-on. Ineos will not be able to get the investment to develop a H2 or EV unless their sales are significant and they are profitable. So to help the environment you need to help Ineos develop their H2 or EV and to do that we need to buy their diesel version ASAP :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
Mike
Being as reliable as the 70's will be a huge challenge for them,if they are to target those sorts of markets.Quote:
Originally Posted by DazzaTD5
Good video with some discussion vs old Defender.
Underneath the Grenadier and other details - 1 of 2 - YouTube
Couple of new points:
Neat storage spot under the front seats - good for an ARB compressor if you’re not intending to flood your footwells.
Double door seals
Captive nut points in the chassis ready for bull bar mounting.
Its not a lightweight vehicle!