Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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Originally Posted by Homestar

I'll believe that when I see it.

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"Speaking of sales, Ineos indicated earlier this year that the Grenadier wagon will kick things off at around £40,000 at launch, which translates to about $53,500. That's not entry-level Wrangler money, and it's also not Range Rover money." ( Ineos Grenadier Inches Closer to Production after Buying Mercedes Plant)
Dollars are US. The cheapest Defender in the UK starts at around 45K for the D200, which is possibly not really a competitor for the Grenadier 3 litre.

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Originally Posted by Tins

"Speaking of sales, Ineos indicated earlier this year that the Grenadier wagon will kick things off at around £40,000 at launch, which translates to about $53,500. That's not entry-level Wrangler money, and it's also not Range Rover money." ( Ineos Grenadier Inches Closer to Production after Buying Mercedes Plant)
Dollars are US. The cheapest Defender in the UK starts at around 45K for the D200, which is possibly not really a competitor for the Grenadier 3 litre.

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Not sure why your using US conversion rate in AU - That’s currently $71k
Plus LCT, import, Dealer etc etc.

So looking at $85k base spec.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Not sure why your using US conversion rate in AU - That’s currently $71k
Plus LCT, import, Dealer etc etc.

So looking at $85k base spec.

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I wasn't. That's a direct lift from a US mag, which I linked to. I actually stated that 'dollars' were US.

Sloppy reading, Mike.

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Originally Posted by Tins

I wasn't. That's a direct lift from a US mag, which I linked to. I actually stated that 'dollars' were US.

Sloppy reading, Mike.

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Sloppy writing. You posted in USD - I acknowledged that, then went on to compare UK pricing on a Defender.

Anywho, it’s going to be interesting to watch - highly unlikely to be part of my driveway collection though. Not sure why. Who knows.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Sloppy writing.

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No, the error was in your interpretation, not my implementation.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Anywho, it’s going to be interesting to watch - highly unlikely to be part of my driveway collection though. Not sure why. Who knows.

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Agreed. I'm interested, but my priorities lie elsewhere.

Ineos Grenadier prototypes started production | Pat Callinan's 4X4 Adventures

I've just watched the 7 episode series on Youtube on the development of the Grenadier.

INEOS Automotive - YouTube

I'm sure its been said before but it looks to me what the new Defender should have been, while the new Defender should be the Discovery 6.

By the sounds of it this BMW powered Grenadier will be close to $100k with no dealer network (but I suppose you could take it to BMW or a Euro mechanic) while the Defender is what, a $110k in D300 form (?) with an existing (albeit **** poor) dealer network.

For the billion or so they are putting into this vehicle I find it hard to see their market.

So will it even be able to be registered in Australia? Are they making an ADR compliant version for our market? Assume it has Airbags, ABS, ESC, etc?

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

I'm sure its been said before but it looks to me what the new Defender should have been,

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But with the exception of the last couple of run out years no one was buying new Defenders. Most who describe what the new Defender should have been would not have bought the old one. Yes the old Defender was and still is a popular vehicle as a used vehicle but not as a new vehicle.

Maybe if the old Defender had been popular, LR would have the funds to bring it into the 20th century let alone the 21st century.

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Originally Posted by Homestar

So will it even be able to be registered in Australia? Are they making an ADR compliant version for our market? Assume it has Airbags, ABS, ESC, etc?

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If not its market will be limited to some parts of Africa and South America.