Here is a link to Defender2 and some photos of the Grenadier crew cab on test. Looks very well.
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Here is a link to Defender2 and some photos of the Grenadier crew cab on test. Looks very well.
DEFENDER2.NET - View topic - Pick Up
If they do a 2 door ute I'm selling the OKA.
something like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins
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Yes. That's cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoges
So no hydrogen version. With such a heavy vehicle you wonder if they are being optimistic with the charge range,
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Can't say I'm surprised. Hydrogen just doesn't make sense. If you burn it in an engine there are lots of issues.. like fitting enough of it in the car, and emissions. If you use a fuel cell they also have big packaging issues, cost and durability issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by spudfan
And then.. name one country in the world where there are sufficient hydrogen fuelling stations.
If they want a car to sell later in the decade they need to decide now. An EV is the only safe bet.
I remember this comment when LPG conversions just started out. [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
There are now several hydrogen generators on the market (that’s the game I’m in) and getting the hydrogen to go with them isn’t an issue. I think the whole tech is in its infancy though and needs another 10 years or so yet, but I think it’s coming.
Fuel cell EV’s make sense to me but not ICE hydrogen as it’s too inefficient. OEM’s are already building the EV infrastructure in their factories around the world so adding a fuel cell to the system isn’t a stretch.
In California there are currently 114 Hydrogen filling stations in operation or under construction. Long way to go, but definitely a start.
They legislated for this, one of the few smart things they have done.
Quite a few of the big manufacturers already have quite viable hydrogen powered cars in production, and that will only increase, so availability will increase with demand. Even OKA is designing fuel cells ffs.
Like I said can't ICE it - so have to fuel cell. Have a look at the Murai. Huge car. no space. Hydrogen is quite the packaging disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
At any rate does "green hydrogen" even really exist until the whole electricity grid is powered by renewables? It only makes sense if there is abundant renewable energy. It's coming but it's a way off.
As I understood it, nearly all of the commercial quantities of the hydrogen produced comes from coal. Also, it is an energy intensive process to manufacture so you get less energy out than you put in. I'm sure that will change over time.