Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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Originally Posted by Robmacca

Will be good to read of your progress and how u find it. I assume u bought the Diesel version?
My concern is the fuel tank size and limited room underneath w/o some major mods...
I will be sitting on the sidelines for the next 4>5yrs watching how it all comes together and whether it will suit my needs or I have to head in a different direction...

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Probably a good call, but for me life is ticking away and I make the best of it now. Yes diesel.

Cheers, Brian.

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Originally Posted by spudfan

I am sure that the Ineos Grenadier is capable of carrying more but that puts it outside the current driving licence limits.

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I suspect it could also be that if they put springing in to give it a big payload it will ride like a ... Toyota.

I remain convinced that a lot of the problems with payloads are due to manufacturers having to put springing in for low weight so cars test drive well. If they were sprung for max weights they would be horrible to ride empty and less people would buy them.

I guess kudos to LR for using air springs as a work around. But it has reliability issues.

With my 110 from 2005.. I think the payload was either 900 or 1000kg. But empty it was bouncy and generally not great when empty. I have got around it with lighter springs and airbags which gives you the best of both. If I did get a grenadier - airbags would be one of the first mods.

Of the few that are in the wild, early pictures of touring has them tail down. [bigwhistle]

I see the Quatermaster price is crazy compared to dual cab utes. The payload is quite disappointing for such a large vehicle. It could have been a great touring vehicle (the Quater) had it had the sort of payload or even close to the (real) Defender 130.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

I see the Quatermaster price is crazy compared to dual cab utes. The payload is quite disappointing for such a large vehicle. It could have been a great touring vehicle (the Quater) had it had the sort of payload or even close to the (real) Defender 130.

Cheers

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I can't see it taking many sales away from any other brand,in Aus,and probably anywhere else.

It will probably end up a low volume seller,like the old 130 Defender,so accessories will be few and far between.

As a workhorse or tourer,it has no real advantage over a 79 series,apart from being more comfortable,and an auto.

Although a well set up 79 is pretty comfortable,and there are many running around with an auto in them.

The Jeep Gladiator's payload is roughly comparable to the more expensive Quartermaster. Like many people, I was disappointed the payload for both vehicles was not higher, ie. older Defender 110 vs 130. Will be interesting to see how the market reacts to these vehicles over the longer term.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed person is king. ie. when there are little to no options other than low payload ute's, people will choose one of them. In oz you get the 70-series (still, who knows how long that will last) so you have options but not so much anywhere else :)

You guys also get GVM upgrades which in many parts of the (western) world is a real hassle if not impossible to achieve so the grenadier could well end up with 1.5 tonne of payload after modding. Still makes it an expensive car but then again, taking your 70 series to wholesale automatic or whatever to convert it to an auto and some other mods to make it as comfortable as a grenadier will cost you dearly I should imagine.

In any case, the standard professional or company buying a ute will use it as is and potentially that payload is not sufficient indeed. Personally, its another tick on my list of disappointments with the direction ineos has chosen.

-P

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Originally Posted by prelude

In oz you get the 70-series (still, who knows how long that will last) so you have options but not so much anywhere else :)

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From a good source i have been told they are done and dusted, for at least Aus,but i haven't heard it from anywhere else so i don't know if it is true or not.

What i do know is some of the big customers have still been getting them,the public had been told they are months or years away.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

I see the Quatermaster price is crazy compared to dual cab utes. The payload is quite disappointing for such a large vehicle. It could have been a great touring vehicle (the Quater) had it had the sort of payload or even close to the (real) Defender 130.

Cheers

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The crappy payload just wiped out my interest, my 130 cab chassis has a payload of 1607 KG before the tray goes on and the HCPU had a payload of 1476KG. The grenadier at 760KG is a joke from my perspective. I wonder what the towing capacity will be, I bet its a long way from the GCM of 7 tons of the 130.


Regards,
Tote

While watching the Tour de France Stage 12 the other night I spotted a dark blue one alongside the road on the stage from Roanne to Belville-en-Beaujolais. Not an Ineos team support vehicle by the looks of it, as they prefer wagons/or sedans with low roofs for accessing the bike racks on top.

From the latest email regarding tests inside the Arctic circle
"The Grenadier Quartermaster. Our new double cab pick-up made its world debut at Goodwood Festival of Speed last week.

It’s our seriously capable off-roader, with extended loadspace. So you can carry up to five adults in comfort, and even the most awkward loads, to remote destinations."
https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/ie/the...nd-development