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MH17 hit by Russian-made missile: final report | The New Daily

can the report been seen as anything other than a political construct?
the finger was always going to point towards russia.

Originally Posted by Eevo

can the report been seen as anything other than a political construct?
the finger was always going to point towards russia.

Well if it was a Russian made missile that was launched from somewhere inside the pro Russian held territory then its hard to come to any other conclusion wouldn't you think?.

Originally Posted by TerryO

Well if it was a Russian made missile that was launched from somewhere inside the pro Russian held territory then its hard to come to any other conclusion wouldn't you think?.

Seems to those who believe lies included in the news peddled by the Western mainstream media on behalf of its political masters it was a Russian made missile that shot down MH17. To anyone with an open mind who has kept an eye on alternate news sources, has appeared all along that it was shot down with bullets from a Ukrainian fighter plane. Seems there is also damage from a missile - of air to air type with further evidence narrowing it to most likely a model made in Israel. Details of damage inflicted are apparently not consistent with that expected from the Russian missiles western "powers that be" would like to have it believed was responsible.

Elvis and Harold Holt conspired to shoot it down, seeing as they're both still alive.

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

Elvis and Harold Holt conspired to shoot it down, seeing as they're both still alive.

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Elvis? What a crackpot theory that is, Elvis is dead.

Originally Posted by mox

Seems to those who believe lies included in the news peddled by the Western mainstream media on behalf of its political masters it was a Russian made missile that shot down MH17. To anyone with an open mind who has kept an eye on alternate news sources, has appeared all along that it was shot down with bullets from a Ukrainian fighter plane. Seems there is also damage from a missile - of air to air type with further evidence narrowing it to most likely a model made in Israel. Details of damage inflicted are apparently not consistent with that expected from the Russian missiles western "powers that be" would like to have it believed was responsible.

SHEEHS the only photos showen in many media shows a **** load of small Holes

the only UKA aircraft flying at that time 1 has not the operational ceiling of that of an airliner passing over head, about 12000 ft to short.

Israel like american a2a uses a frail to do the damage, like a loop of numchunks to cut. Russian stuff uses shrapnel. the damage we have been shown is consistent with shrapnel.

you can not just clip on US missiles to a Russian air frame, its just not that simple

the UKA aircraft could not get close enough to fire a missile let alone use it guns

we have not been shown any thing that looks like gun damage. US stuff is mullty barrelled and smaller calibre. but the grouping tracks. we have been shown nothing that looks like that.
Russian stuff is a hight cyclic rate single barrel of larger calibres ( cannon)
there are just tomany holes and thay are to small for that.

Now everyone on any side who Knows. Knows that some 1/2 assed trained sepertasts or RF on holiday types. took at shot at an UKA aircraft or thought they did. they got the wrong plane.

i suspect the weapon was not manned by Russian regulars, simply because there SOP would be to lose 3 missiles with 3 offsets ( for want of a better word) to counter any counter action

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Elvis? What a crackpot theory that is, Elvis is dead.

Crack pot theory indeed. By insightful logic you have ruled out Elvis. Further, I can't believe Holt was involved. It's just not possible for him to have pulled it off from within China.