Thread: Another plane down.

Wikipedia lists eight airline crashes concluded to be suicide, and four "believed" to be suicide.

John

I'm surprised how quickly they have announced that the copilot was to blame. Not saying I don't believe it, but there are a lot of factors that could have created the same outcome. I don't think they have found the FDR yet have they? Only the CVR? Air crash investigations through history have a habit of ending up with a different conclusion to the obvious one. That being said, only the investigators of this one know the details, so maybe it is obvious.

Blknight, Apple almost refuses to let me type your user name. A component failure discovered in maintenance should be reported as a SDR, service difficulty report. This covers anything that would effect the safety of flight. The most common simple one is corrosion in light aircraft, which creates statistics that are then turned into Airworthiness Directives that might include enhance inspection schedules or component updates. But it's a big system. You can selected access SDRs I think through CASA website.

Originally Posted by BigBlackDog

I'm surprised how quickly they have announced that the copilot was to blame.

Don't believe anything you read in the paper. I'll wait for the official report. Newspapers are all about writing a story to sell the paper accurate or otherwise.

I heard an advert the day after the crash where Ch7 said "We investigate what caused the crash." or something along those lines. What I picked up on was the "we investigate".

How did they do that? How about "We theorise" or "We made up a story that we thought you might believe".

I loved a pic in the Daily Telegraph today - in case you don't know where the cockpit on a plane is located, they've circled it on a drawing.

You should know better than watch channel 7 Ron! How goes life?

Originally Posted by Fourgearsticks

You should know better than watch channel 7 Ron! How goes life?

I don't! I heard it on the radio which I normally don't have turned on because I can't stand the adverts nor the announcers when there are more than one.

Whose that person with their finger on the door lock switch? Surely they might have something to do with all this

Originally Posted by BigBlackDog

Blknight, Apple almost refuses to let me type your user name. A component failure discovered in maintenance should be reported as a SDR, service difficulty report. This covers anything that would effect the safety of flight. The most common simple one is corrosion in light aircraft, which creates statistics that are then turned into Airworthiness Directives that might include enhance inspection schedules or component updates. But it's a big system. You can selected access SDRs I think through CASA website.

yes but thats still not what Im getting at. Ive got no problems with an SDR but the SDR is done as part of maintenance before the plane is released to the pilot I'm talking about the stuff that goes wrong with a "perfectly flyable" or "CFU accepted" aircraft

What i have an issue with is is when a breakdown occurs that could have but didnt lead to an accident. say pilot excelence or just sheer luck prevents the accident. Maintenance wise a whole lot goes on but up at the money spending decision making its an "incident" not an "accident"

the way its understood by the guys on the ground doing the fixes I've no beef with. Its when the money grubbers higher up get to spin their side that needs to be looked at. " no accidents on my watch, I'll take that bonus and cut back the maintenance budget to justify them giving it to me becausee Im saving them money." Sure nice work there bucko but how many near misses were there that could have gone worse?

It's coming out (Friday night) that the co-pilot has previously endured a debilitating and long term bout of depression...
I'd be worried if any pilot was on anti-depressants, many of which have been associated with quite a few youth-perpetrated killings. I've heard (ok, "read"...) that the side-effects can be permanantly mind-altering for some people.
A scary thought !