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    Juan's latest vid I just posted has some other disturbing info, which reinforces John's MBA postulation. One could be forgiven for thinking this is corporate cultural.

    The poor kid sitting next to the failed plug will have something cool for show and tell... I don't know enough about flow dynamics, but I would have to wonder about how, after the initial decompression, the Venturi effect would have been tearing at him. Bloody terrifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Juan's latest vid I just posted has some other disturbing info, which reinforces John's MBA postulation. One could be forgiven for thinking this is corporate cultural.

    The poor kid sitting next to the failed plug will have something cool for show and tell... I don't know enough about flow dynamics, but I would have to wonder about how, after the initial decompression, the Venturi effect would have been tearing at him. Bloody terrifying.


    The Captain apparently requested a quick change of altitude to 10,000' so they could breath normally, but that short & fast trip down would have required all the PAX seats to be sanitised, twice or more.

    It also shows that A/C seat belts should be worn even at times one isn't moving around the plane.
    Mr & Mrs Perfect Virgos - Bee do it automatically even when driving over our Dam /Road, seat belts get unlatched & doors unlocked . Due to what happened to a recent elderly Couple dying when their car in the UK ran off & into their dam & they drowned. Of course these things are set to normal once we are past that Danger spot. Remember Phil Spencer & Kirsty?
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    It just shows you what dangers we probably face every day unaware that some cretin has not done his/her job as specified. I am glad it went well for the PAX on Alaska Air flight also the arsey ones on JAL.

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    It just gets better...

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    There might be a bit of a time lapse with that video. I heard that the -9s had started to return to service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    There might be a bit of a time lapse with that video. I heard that the -9s had started to return to service.
    It's only a day old, and he is generally on top of things.
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    Maybe not yet, Ian.

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    Definitely still grounded. And John, you were spot on it seems. Spirit is under investigation as well.

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    Don't forget though, longer than 20 years ago, about 35 years ago, n April 28, 1988, the roof of an Aloha Airlines (flight 243) jet ripped off at 24,000 feet, but the plane still managed to land safely. That was ALSO a Boeing, the 737, where its roof tore loose and peeled off mid-flight. A flight attendant was killed, and more than 60 people suffered injuries. This was long before the mergers and MBA-ification noted above.

    Airplanes are still dangerous business, though statistically one of the safest ways to travel. So much can go wrong between engineering, value engineering, production, operations, maintenance, weather, etc........ yes, Boeing has had a tough run of late and it is tragic that there has been loss of life.

    Airbus has had its fair share as well - As of January 2024, 180 aviation accidents and incidents, including 38 hull loss accidents and 1505 fatalities in 17 fatal accidents.

    Again, it's still a dangerous business, all the way round.
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    To quote Wikipedia:- "caused by part of the fuselage breaking due to poor maintenance and metal fatigue."

    "While the airframe had accumulated 35,496 flight hours prior to the accident, those hours included nearly 90,000 flight cycles (takeoffs and landings), owing to its use on short flights."

    "This amounted to more than twice the number of flight cycles for which it was designed."

    I am not sure that one can be laid at Boeing's door - the aircraft was clearly being used in a way that was outside its design. I think this was in Aloha's domain, not Boeing's, although it is possible that Boeing did not properly document the expected fatigue life of the plane. One member of the investigating panel allocated blame to both Boeing and the FAA for this, although the rest of the panel blamed Aloha for not spotting cracking - which was noticed by one passenger boarding the flight (who said nothing!).

    This was a very early production one (152) and all 737s after 291 had the skin joint that fatigued and failed redesigned because it had become a known problem.

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