how about the guy who does FQC for amberly...
but you still seem to be effectively dodging the opportunity to answer the question yourself.
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						precisely where did you answer the question?
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						Originally Posted by clean32
Yull Brown did invent a new way of electronically splitting water into hydrogen and water, from memory he used a metal oxide in the water. The gas this produced was a bit different to what is normally produced when using electrolysis.
different gases and gases with different properties can be produced by electrolysis, for example chlorine and hydrogen if salt is added to the water. Most of these internet systems use caustic soda in the water, this will give a normal hho split. Yull Brown used a metal in solution. it may be electrolysis of water but with out adding something to help carry the current in the water the possess becomes very slow and relatively inefficient.
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.... and as it turn out his new way of producing his new gas was quite efficient not only was it a rather cheaper way of producing gas ( electrolysis) but the gas burnt with a theoretical no upper limit to temperature.
No this is the interesting bit about browns gas and why it was poplar with welding different materials at very high temperatures. Now when we say burn in reference to browns Gas we actually mean implode, i.e. it gets smaller not larger. Now there are 3 parts to answering your question.
1 the flame has not the requirement to Push the already burnt gasses out of the way as it is with a normal flame. Effectively the flame creates a vacuum around it.
2 as there are a vacuum heat will not radiate out at the same speed as what you would normally expect from a normal flame.
3 because the burn rate or the reaction of the gases to return to a normal state is much quicker and that it creates a vacuum around itself and that most of energy produced remains close. This has an expediential effect.
On a more practical side, back in the days when I was welding fork tines I used 3 LPG bottles and 2 oxygen bottles running though a single torch to heat the tines before welding. This took most of the morning. These were replaced with a browns gas generator that took about 30 minutes to heat up a tine. we actually had to stop using it because the heat was to localized and detrimental to the process but the amount of energy produced from a small box was amazing. How ever in the original context of this thread totally useless for running a car on.
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I found this link in a Silicon Chip magazine (1/09) about hydrogen enhancement:
Green Car Congress: Hydrogen-Enhanced Combustion Engine Could Improve Gasoline Fuel Economy by 20% to 30%
It seems to show that in order to benefit from hydrogen you need a very high compression/ultra lean condition before you can improve efficiency on a spark ignition engine. So no luck to backyard dabblers.
And now, for those who make claims about Browns Gas, namely HHO, how would the molecule form? From my chemistry lessons hydrogen has a single valence electron and so can only form a single chemical bond with one atom. Oxygen has two valence holes to bond with hydrogen which makes H2O or H-O-H the default molecule. For H-H-O to be stable compared with traditional ol' H2O would be a miracle indeed. HO-HO-HO indeed
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