Thread: Club Permit Scheme - Profit no Profit

At least in NSW a declaration has to be signed and stamped by the club each year, whether people forge that signature I don't know and how conscientious the RTA clerks are sighting the current membership card is another question.

We now have a 3 event rule for members within 50KM and represent the club on at least one occasion outside 50 KM. This will be part of the audit.

thanks all for your comments, its quite important that the system is not abused and i am fully aware of that. my vehicle is currently on CH plates and will go on full rego because i want to go by the books and do the right thing. this way i can do as i wish with commercial use tv film hire, etc.

problem solved no hassels

cheers,

Chris

Originally Posted by chris1983rangie

thanks all for your comments, its quite important that the system is not abused and i am fully aware of that. my vehicle is currently on CH plates and will go on full rego because i want to go by the books and do the right thing. this way i can do as i wish with commercial use tv film hire, etc.

problem solved no hassels

cheers,

Chris

Chris

If it's only a single event, you may be able to use it on an unregistered vehicle permit. You could also talk to your insurance company to see about getting additional cover for the filming.

In NSW other uses for community events or benefit etc are permitted, provided it's not for hire or reward (reimbursement of expenses is O.K.) but still need to be authorised by the Club's registrar. ANZAC day is a classic example, LROC Sydney does not have a "trip" to ANZAC Day, but I would always authorise a member who wished to attend. Similarly someone could also use the car for their daughter's wedding or prom if authorised by the registrar.

Depending on the film, it may be considered a documentary of "community benefit" and fit in with the CP rules. You need to ask your club registrar and the RTA etc.

For owners in Queeensland, all the correct info is on the Queensland Transport website. Be good if the rules were the same Australia wide, but that is probably too easy. I know bloke in Adelaide who had to remove the 3 Webers from his Triumph TR6 as it was not deemed original. Otherwise he had to go on full rego.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Chris

If it's only a single event, you may be able to use it on an unregistered vehicle permit. You could also talk to your insurance company to see about getting additional cover for the filming.

In NSW other uses for community events or benefit etc are permitted, provided it's not for hire or reward (reimbursement of expenses is O.K.) but still need to be authorised by the Club's registrar. ANZAC day is a classic example, LROC Sydney does not have a "trip" to ANZAC Day, but I would always authorise a member who wished to attend. Similarly someone could also use the car for their daughter's wedding or prom if authorised by the registrar.

Depending on the film, it may be considered a documentary of "community benefit" and fit in with the CP rules. You need to ask your club registrar and the RTA etc.

In Victoria, you definitely cannot use an unregistered vehicle permit for purposes other than road testing or uses associated with getting it roadworthy and registered.

An Unregistered Vehicle Permit (UVP) allows you to drive an unregistered vehicle with some conditions. It is not a temporary registration. Your vehicle must be safe for use on the road and you must follow the permit conditions.


Conditions
You generally cannot drive between 7:00pm and 7:00am with an unregistered vehicle permit.
An unregistered vehicle permit cannot be issued if:

• your vehicle is under suspension
• your vehicle is registered
• there is an uncleared defect notice on your vehicle.

Registrations are very different from state to state. For example, in Victoria, we do not need to register a trailer if it is less than 3m long, less than the width of the towing vehicle and 750kg GVM or less. We have an exempt trailer plate. Take this trailer to NSW and they fine you for using an unregistered trailer.

In relation to using unregistered vehicles in movies and community events, that is covered under whatever agreement the movie company or event organiser has made with the local council. I drove my car through Treasury Gardens once. The police couldn't touch me because I had permission from the Melbourne City Council.

Originally Posted by blackbuttdisco

For owners in Queeensland, all the correct info is on the Queensland Transport website. Be good if the rules were the same Australia wide, but that is probably too easy. I know bloke in Adelaide who had to remove the 3 Webers from his Triumph TR6 as it was not deemed original. Otherwise he had to go on full rego.

South Australia is the most pedantic of all the eastern states and I don't think that WA is reciprocal with the east.

In NSW commercial vehicles including Land Rovers are permitted to have "period engine replacements" if they were accepted by the authorities at the time. So Holden engines are O.K in NSW, in South Australia if you replaced the seat vinyl with a cloth trim it wouldn't be acceptable.

A lot of the interpretation in NSW is left to the individual club, e.g. the historic racing car club will accept engine and suspension modifications if the vehicle was raced in that configuration during the vehicles original "racing" life. The RTA doesn't want to go this deep.

Diana

The differences & anomalies were worse before the national scheme..

Pretty sure the cheap fee is insurance related. In NSW, one ins co does all the compulsory third party for club plates. Or used to anyway.

The golden rule with club plates is no daily commuting. That puts insurance up a category. Commercial use puts it up again.

Regards
Max P

I have heard that the minister has approved the changes to the classic/historic vehicle permit scheme.

I don't know what the latest changes that were approved were but here's a link for those who are interested.

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