Thread: Club Permit Scheme - Profit no Profit

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Your choice. As long as it's within the road rules, It's ok.
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It's not up to me. I'm just the messenger. Thought others would be interested.

Mick

I'm not having a go at you, it's just my opinion.

I can see there will be plenty of people who will abuse the scheme and in the end and the Governments want for money will remove it altogether and we'll all be back on full rego.

It will be a case of lets watch all the states follow suit!

That link indicates a vehicle can be used for "Events" up to 90 days per year. I am surprised it does not say "Club Events" - so does any related document clarify what an "Event" is. Under the current system it is clearly a club authorised event (basically you need some sort of club approval to use your car with the exception of the test drive/maintenance rule) but there ios now this new system so do the same rules apply - if so the 90 day rule is a backward step. However, if you can now use your car for events as determined by yourself then in many respects the system is better but will be abused.

Garry

Garry

I know that I can only speak for NSW, however the NSW Historic Conditional Registration Scheme allows HCRS vehicles to attend events of community benefit outside the Recognised Club's own events.

Basically the local RSL can contact our Club's registrar and request vehicles for ANZAC day, or the sports car club may receive a request for vehicles for the footy teams grand final parade etc. So long as it's not for hire or reward the club can approve the event for member's vehicles.

Taking the clubs out of the scenario, taking a load of rubbish to the tip becomes an approved event.

Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Mick

I'm not having a go at you, it's just my opinion.

I can see there will be plenty of people who will abuse the scheme and in the end and the Governments want for money will remove it altogether and we'll all be back on full rego.

It will be a case of lets watch all the states follow suit!

Didn't think you were.
You're right in that people will abuse the new scheme as people abused the old scheme.
This new scheme is more useful to me. I may put the Mercedes on it as I would be lucky to drive it twice a month.
You also have to look into the registration process of the different states.
You don't want to run out of rego in Vic. Amongst other things, I had to replace a perfectly good windscreen on the Mercedes because there was a small chip where the rego sticker is. I now don't have to get another roadworthy again as long as I own the car.
The NSW system checks them sensibly each year (or so I understand). Is the car safe? Yes. Here's the pink slip mate. (or is it blue?)
SA, you pay a late fee and it's registered. I had a car over there that I only registered for six months of each year.

I did a mornings training with Qld. Transport for club dating officers, who have to do the certification for applications for Special Interest registration.My understanding is that an "Authorised Event" need not be an event organised and run by your club. It can be an event run by any of the clubs accepted by QT. The procedure for getting authorisation to attend another club's event is to ask your club committee to authorise such attendance. This should be in the minutes of a club or committee meeting and published in the Club newsletter. I would move a motion at a club meeting that the committee consider and authorise the request. This will be recorded in the minutes. Take copies of the minutes and the newsletter with you. I would do this always. The world is full of half-smart coppers and pedantic transport officers who seem to love questioning the use of SI reg. vehicles.

A log book scheme is wide open to abuse. Same as truck driver's log books were. You don't fill in the time, date or destination until you are pulled over. If not pulled over for a log book check then that page can be used until you are.

There are plenty of people in the hobby, unfortunately, who do and will abuse any scheme. These are the ones who may eventually cause the cancellation of the SI scheme on the grounds of excessive abuse.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Garry

I know that I can only speak for NSW, however the NSW Historic Conditional Registration Scheme allows HCRS vehicles to attend events of community benefit outside the Recognised Club's own events.

Basically the local RSL can contact our Club's registrar and request vehicles for ANZAC day, or the sports car club may receive a request for vehicles for the footy teams grand final parade etc. So long as it's not for hire or reward the club can approve the event for member's vehicles.

Exactly under the current scheme a vehicle can be used for any event as long as it is approved in one way or another by the club. The wording of the new Vic system implies that it is up to the owner as long as not more than 90 days per year are used.

This would be great for me but I know it will be abused by others - my 101 is on full registration but under the new Vic scheme I would be better putting it on historic plates and continue to use it as I do now - including going to the dump - as it would be used about 90 days a year.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

That link indicates a vehicle can be used for "Events" up to 90 days per year. I am surprised it does not say "Club Events" - so does any related document clarify what an "Event" is. Under the current system it is clearly a club authorised event (basically you need some sort of club approval to use your car with the exception of the test drive/maintenance rule) but there ios now this new system so do the same rules apply - if so the 90 day rule is a backward step. However, if you can now use your car for events as determined by yourself then in many respects the system is better but will be abused.

Garry

Yes Gary.
My understanding is it does not have to be a club event. As was explained to me, if you wanted to take it on a sunny Sunday afternoon drive, that would be an event. If you wanted to fuel it up the day before, that would also be an event.
I think too many people were taking their pride and joys on a road trip and claiming road testing or something like that. There were also clubs poping up on the internet in which you put in where you wanted to go and called it a club trip.
It may be abused but it can only be abused for up to 90 days a year (I would have preferred the 45 day proposal but that's just me.)
Don't forget the book has to be filled out before you travel otherwise suffer the consequences.