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    Talking

    Good on you Andy! No doubt you'll do the best you can to keep safe in the process of having a ball!!! I am very jealous. Did anyone mention putting on a kidney belt like bikers wear? Assuming you can still sit comfortably it might help offset some jarring.

    If you haven't a plan for it, and before you wreck it, can I have the cat off the bonnet for my boy? He's started collecting "cool" things...

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    Just noticed.

    If you can swap the mags out for steelies... when your swapping the tyres fill them with a flexing expanding foam.
    Dave

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    Silicon the tyres to the beads, cheap bead locks, run 10-12psi, Traction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT-P38 View Post
    If you haven't a plan for it, and before you wreck it, can I have the cat off the bonnet for my boy? He's started collecting "cool" things...
    the cats staying put for the derby - if they let me. If not I'll be keeping it as a momento. I do have some nice jaguar scuff plates, similar to the range rover ones on the p38. I'll save him one if you want.

    You should enter the porsche Dave

    I had it on the hoist today, I have to remove the complete IRS to get the rear cover off the diff and modify the suspension. Has anyone ever ripped the rear out of a jag before? Looks like a bit of a job.

    Started stripping it today, found a bit of rust but only 5c in change so far.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew e View Post
    I do have some nice jaguar scuff plates, similar to the range rover ones on the p38. I'll save him one if you want.
    That would be great mate! He'll buzz! And aaah the Porsche in a derby is a big NO-NO-NO! She's gonna be a classic weekend driver with any luck (Mrs still saying sell when done!).

    Also hijacking your thread a bit... but wondering if you guys have a spare wheel and tyre lying around that I can buy? It needs to suit as a spare for my No5 Army Trailer Camper I'm building up... I think they use series rims..

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    is this the event?

    Demolition Derby

    i can see a forum get together coming up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkie View Post
    is this the event?

    Demolition Derby

    i can see a forum get together coming up!
    Thanks Yorkie he was obviously to frightened to tell me where it was in case I actually went..!!!

    I will put that in my diary and bring along my camera
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew e View Post
    Definitely.

    Heres some modifications that I am going to do which I think are allowed. Please add to the list if you have any more suggestions.

    Grooved tyres (anyone got a tyre grooves they can lend me?)
    Welded diff
    Welded shocks at full height
    No fan
    Bypassed radiation with straight glycol - will double check on bypassing due to rule 4a and 6.
    Doors with concrete (check with rule 3e)
    Bypass trannie cooler
    Reverse camera mounted on roof, feeding wireless to my iPad mounted on the dash....
    Different steering wheel with forklift knob
    Chained down engine, box and tail shaft.
    Removing ac and other unused parts under the bonnet.
    Exhaust cut off after headers.
    Spare tyre bolted down in boot, full of water.
    Foam pillow mounted in steering wheel centre, and other places around interior.

    Andy
    I agree with Matt - sikaflex the tyres to the rims. Maybe even fill them with water for some extra mass???

    I am not sure why you would want the suspension at full height? Being lower to the ground will give you better stability and make you less likely to roll or be rolled. The rules say nothing about suspension mods though. If it is allowed I would weld in solid steel in place of the coils (assuming that model Jag has coils or macpherson struts all round) - at the minimum suspension height you think you need. It will make for a rough ride, but no rougher than all the other cars bashing into you

    Reading the rules, I doubt you will be allowed to keep the hood ornament on...

    Water provides better cooling than glycol. I would probably run straight water with a few cans of bar's leaks added. There is also nothing in the rules to say you can't add protection to/around the rad, as long as it stays original and you don't move it (e.g. foam on the rad where it is most likely to make contact with the engine).

    Does the car have enclosed subframe rails front (and/or rear). The rules do not seem to preclude you filling them with concrete.

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    if youve got an expansion tank drill a hole in the cap, If you're sneaky you might be able to plumb the windshield washer tank into the cooling system and use that to "refill", you just have to be sneaky how you plumb it in.

    The hole in the cap will prevent the engine from pressurising and ease the leak in the event of a hose getting pinched or the radiator holed (if you cant bypass it)

    If you're not allowed to bypass it run a heavy mix of eggwhites and detergent
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    Did a bit more work to the jag today, stripped out the boot, back seat, exhaust, rear doors, bypassed the xyz switch (always thinks its in park, so I can start in gear). Started stripping the ac, removed the fan and shroud, I also located the inertia switch. I hope to get the front doors and the rest of the trim out tomorrow, then start on the engine. Scored some chain for the doors too.

    I spoke to a current driver brett today about what is and is not allowed. I cannot strengthen anything apart from the drivers door. So no rail mods, concrete in the doors, and no spare in the boot. He recommended leaving the rad in as well, as some Derbys go for upto half an hour. Shocks are not meant to be modified, so I'll be putting a tube on shock rod, and the boot over the top. The rear has coil overs, so I have to do something else there, might put in longer springs. He says he runs tubes in the tyres, which might be hard considering that I have 16 inch low profile tyres. I have some 14 inch steelies I could run, but i'll try the 16s grooved In the padock first and compare them to the 14s.


    I'm on the hunt for another car for a friend, we want a magna 4 or v6, mid to late 90s, $300 max.

    andy

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