All TPI peolpe in Victoria should have a travel pass
Only those TPI with oversea service
Fossicker
A very close friend of mine was granted a full tpi at the age of 42, went through hell and back, and his injuries related back to a UN deployment in Cambodia.
And happens to be a victorian.
Wizard
I think you have it backwards dude. Chosing to be a soldier/sailor/airman is like chosing to be a police officer or ambo or whatever. It's a career in service of the nation.Originally Posted by roverfan
I don't want to burn a strawman, so are you suggesting if you chose to be an investment banker and trip down the stairs ****ed and full of coke at the Friday afternoon knees up you deserve the same benefits as a soldier injured in battle defending the nation?
Seems an odd position to take.
Swaggie
This is what Repatriation/ DVA Benefits were for. To give income support to persons who received war related injuries in a war zone. As I recall had to be there for thirty days in danger. Not for peace time soldiers injured at home. I can't accept that Defence Force personnel not engaged in a war zone can get an extraordinarily generous TPI (Totally Permanently Incapacitated) Pension. Commonwealth Public Servants (what else are peace time soldiers?) are covered under Comcare or should be.
This will cause a furore amongst the flag waving far right wingers. I don't agree with War Widows being given special treatment. What difference is it how a woman lost her man, lawful husband, shack up, de facto or what. DSS (Centrelink) gives financial support to supporting parents.
URSUSMAJOR
Master
Subscriberyour reply suggests you are much younger than I
Support for war widows came because they had been living in difficult economic times ,bringing up a family unassisted.
The real heroines were the wives who stood by their men who came home
suffering from what we now call PTSD.Whether it be WW2 or any defence engagement the family -wife and kids of our defence forces deserve the BEST of treatment.Anyone who denies this is imo a fool
Cheers,
Mary
"Some people walk in the rain,others just get wet!" -Roger Miller
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SubscriberVeterans with qualifying service come under the umbrella of DVA [ dept. of vet affairs], not centrelink. Veterans, who qualify, are entitled to a war service pension at age 60. Widows of qualifying veterans [or, nowadays, widowers] can only apply for a war widows pension if the death of the veteran was attributed to disease or injury [wounds, etc] relating to the veterans war service. Being married to a veteran does not automatically entitle you to a war widows pension. Bob
I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food
A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
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SubscriberHave to agree with your first point, it is what DVA benefits are for. SERVICEMEN /WOMEN injured at home are entitled to the same level of compensation allowed for their civilian counterparts. They do NOT get the same benefits their counterparts with qualifying service [ war service ] are allowed . Those who serve in a war zone are not guaranteed full compensation unless they meet a very stringent set of qualifying rules.Every serviceman @ woman knows this, yet they still put themselves forward , because of their sense of duty, and besides, thats why they joined. I would like to suggest, the " normal" civilian workforce target jobs for what THEY can get out of it , not for how they can help others. Bob
I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food
A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
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SubscriberAgree completely, having lived with a father who suffered from the effects of war, having lived thru him bashing my mother when I was too young to help, leaving home at 15 for that very reason, and seeing my mother stand by him , unconditionaly, until he died from a war related condition , at age 83, after 66 yrs of marriage, Sorry, can't say any more. Bob[ Just have one more thing to say to Brian Helm. If you don't understand the sacrifice the Woman married to men who came home from War , seriously effected by that experience, who stuck by their men, who raised their families in that volatile enviroment, then please don't make a sweeping statement, saying that they should be treated the same as, for example, wifes of the modern Australia, whose main worry is when their men are coming home from fly in, fly out, earning so much more than those who volunteer to to serve in the Armed Forces of this country. yours, Aye, Bob
I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food
A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
Wizard
Oh mate, you are so far off the mark I don't know where to start.
'Normal' employees can get life insurance at 'normal' rates and their employers are legally responsible to provide a safe working environment. Try getting life insurance that will cover you for conducting live-fire room clearance training, fast roping from helicopters or parachuting. You have a weird arm-chair expert idea of what a soldier does when they aren't at war.
As for the widows, you've obviously never stood on someones door step in uniform, gathering the courage to knock on the door and tell them that Hubby/Dad/Son (or female equivalent) is not coming home. Lucky you.
Wizard
It is hard to appreciate what defence familys go through if you aren't one.I can't accept that Defence Force personnel not engaged in a war zone can get an extraordinarily generous TPI (Totally Permanently Incapacitated) Pension. Commonwealth Public Servants (what else are peace time soldiers?) are covered under Comcare or should be.
You are really showing our lack of knowledge in how defence actually conduct business. Being deployed is only one part, there is heaps more training that goes on in country so you can actually come home in one piece.
See how you go sending the common public servant over seas to fight.
I am not starting a fight but for you to think of in barracks soldiers as a common public servant gives me the ****s mate, look in the mirror and apply upper cuts.
This will cause a furore amongst the flag waving far right wingers. I don't agree with War Widows being given special treatment. What difference is it how a woman lost her man, lawful husband, shack up, de facto or what. DSS (Centrelink) gives financial support to supporting parents.
Master
I think the the liberal or national party mentioned that it wanted to add families of TPI veterans to the gold card medical system.
I think there needs to be more on the TV about the crap that they and there families. I think it a perfect example the QLD cop the was shot on duty had a fund raising event to raise money for his family. Not saying that is wrong but you never heard of that for a dead diggers family or one that has to deal with service related issue all alone. I think that wife/ partners of returned servicemen and otherwise messed up ex service people aught to be given a cares payment while they are still with there partner. Many suffer in silence and that is why people aptitudes are screwed up. Bit like the greens stopping hazard burns off then there not where to be found when the fire comes. A what is worse the media says nothing about them.
Did anyone see that SAS or clearance diver doco?
It funny how some say they chose that job and they did it was in there make-up. Some are drawn to serve. I don't know what that dude who said " they chose that job" as a excuse not to look after them when they are worn out, would think when the government conscript him in the service.
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