Thread: landrovers.... not what they used to be...

the sooner people stop referring to them as "Puma"s the better...not only is it segregating, its causing all sorts of confusion in other areas, causing some people to complain about threads being derailed, when, in fact it is the clearing up of confusion that is derailing due to the bloody Puma lableing...

or should I just call mine a Gemini Series II

Originally Posted by dobbo

You choose to live in that ***** of a place don't blame me.

Sorry mate It just makes me laugh when city people act country.By the way you can't buy the the vehicle you described because it doesn't exist,having come from series LR's I would not have enjoyed my across the center trip and back at Xmas or my 13hr return trip to Perth last week or my 12 hr return trip to Broome in four weeks or my 5 day return trip to Darwin in 8 weeks that my swiss cheese drivetrain,break down every 5 mins,low gearbox hanging,can't fix in the bush,no one wants to work on,can't herd cattle,non stump pulling TDCi aka puma has done,but if you want to do all those things on bar treads with a plow on the front and slasher on the back with no air con in summer be my guest. Pat

Just to add my TDCi hand brake drum,the lowest point on a defenders drivetrain sits 20mm lower than my Tdi's HB drum,I don't know where you got 2'',your mate down the pub?,the P38a diff in the TDCi has 240mm of clearance but the Sals in the Tdi has only 220mm and it runs 34'' tyres but anyway we won't let the facts get in the way of a good story. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

Sorry mate It just makes me laugh when city people act country.By the way you can't buy the the vehicle you described because it doesn't exist,having come from series LR's I would not have enjoyed my across the center trip and back at Xmas or my 13hr return trip to Perth last week or my 12 hr return trip to Broome in four weeks or my 5 day return trip to Darwin in 8 weeks that my swiss cheese drivetrain,break down every 5 mins,low gearbox hanging,can't fix in the bush,no one wants to work on,can't herd cattle,non stump pulling TDCi aka puma has done,but if you want to do all those things on bar treads with a plow on the front and slasher on the back with no air con in summer be my guest. Pat

Ok I'll admit it, yours is bigger, shame it's not in the correct anotomical place

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Defender drivers wave, Check, every single time AND I was in a disco.
Disco Drivers, Check, well mostly usually the D1s waved and occasionally the D2s.
Ford Drivers, Nope, Not a single one out of about 10.

Seems to me the Puma drivers may be more discerning. Now we need to track down these Disco waving Defender drivers and have a word to them about "the rules".

Originally Posted by dobbo

......................I am looking for a tractor to use on my ...........................

A good idea.

Whilst it was a good idea to have a combination tractor/utility vehicle back in post war 1948 England, manafacturing has moved on. There are actually companys that produce tractors now. The neccessity to have a belt pully on the back of a Land Rover is no more. The provision of a roof as standard was definitely an improvement as the desire for more comfortable 4WD'ing took hold. And so it goes.

4WD vehicles may have evolved to SUV/Toorak Tractors with a degree of robustness/reliability/complexity that is enough to make a diehard off road enthusiast throw up but unfortunately that's the market as percieved by the major players.

With a bit of luck Tata won't be 'waving goodbye' to the people who actually want a 4WD with off road capability and will corner the market in this area. I live in hope. What they don't need to do is build a tractor.

Deano

Originally Posted by dobbo

Ok I'll admit it, yours is bigger, shame it's not in the correct anotomical place

Your the one doing all the chest beating. Pat

Originally Posted by uninformed

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or should I just call mine a Gemini Series II