Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 36

Thread: Staun Tyre Deflators Legal Action

  1. #21
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Bendigo
    Posts
    295
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I would just be happy if someone could find my set. I want to use them to build my own tanami style pump. I found them useless at tyre deflating. So brought the ARB copy of the currie enterprises deflator (I think they are built under licenses though).

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Moruya Heads/Sth. Coast, NSW
    Posts
    6,532
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    I think that's a bit harsh Frank!! I have what looks like staun imitation deflators but they came free with the genuine black rat strap I bought which is why I have stauns and imitation set.

    There may also be people out there that dont know they are imitations of stauns.. and think they are a product in their own right!!
    Sorry, didn't mean it, was angry, Regards Frank.

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Moruya Heads/Sth. Coast, NSW
    Posts
    6,532
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by clubagreenie View Post
    So where does it come in where a company like Ryco as soon as a new model comes out buys a spare filter and then copies it for dimensions but potentially improves ability to filter with better materials. It's still a filter, same size, copied from a genuine article. It's how it works, had a discussion when I found that their D2 filter was listed the same as the D1 whih is similar but slightly different in one dimension. Looks like it fits but doesn't seal if the D1 is fitted to D2, D2 into D1 you just need squeeze it in.
    Clubagreenie, car manufacturers do not build oil filters, Ryco et al supply OEM filters to GM, Ford etc., and to the aftermarket, Regards Frank.

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Moruya Heads/Sth. Coast, NSW
    Posts
    6,532
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by turps View Post
    I would just be happy if someone could find my set. I want to use them to build my own tanami style pump. I found them useless at tyre deflating. So brought the ARB copy of the currie enterprises deflator (I think they are built under licenses though).
    Why did you find them "useless at tyre deflating", they are possibly the easist deflator on the market to use as well as the quickest, I could deflate all 4 tyres before you could do one with the ARB deflator, Regards Frank.

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Bracken Ridge - Brisbane - QLD
    Posts
    14,276
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by turps
    I would just be happy if someone could find my set. I want to use them to build my own tanami style pump. I found them useless at tyre deflating. So brought the ARB copy of the currie enterprises deflator (I think they are built under licenses though).
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    Why did you find them "useless at tyre deflating", they are possibly the easist deflator on the market to use as well as the quickest, I could deflate all 4 tyres before you could do one with the ARB deflator, Regards Frank.
    I agree frank, I have watched from a distance many a time guys using the ARB deflators....I do one lap of the car to put the stauns on than have a kick of the footy, when I hear the last staun shutting off one more quick lap around the car to retrieve

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    2,535
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I think sadly its all an unpredictable mess. Politicians have failed to protect their people. Failed to keep the lawyers under thumb; and people are generally greedy. Go the US way and its all too expansive, go the Chinese way and cheaper and cheaper will also have it's poor results eventually.
    Somehow with all its injustices we have perhaps the best outcome. Want genuine, want Aus jobs or alleged quality then we pay for it. Want a lucky dip on the previous and by Asian.
    It is frustrating that within weeks the people who think of nothing just rip someones else's work off. That's here in Aus with online sellers or in Asia manufacturing.
    But the west who lead the charge with inventing need to somehow twist it so Asia simply cant do what they do. Foreigners cant pull out of Chinese industry without leaving substantial investment in the county I hear, and there is no intellectual property there. Where over here it seems grab what you want if you have the money.
    Once again an Australian entity is subject to the level playing field the polies have created. I bet Staun are enjoying "free enterprise" at the moment which works boths ways.
    Jason

    2010 130 TDCi

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Brisbane, Inner East.
    Posts
    11,178
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by newhue View Post
    But the west who lead the charge with inventing need to somehow twist it so Asia simply cant do what they do.


    and there is no intellectual property there.
    I knew a Brisbane manufacturer of lightweight steel goods, mostly furniture, using high tensile steels for lower weight. He was a great innovator and held a few patents to do with tooling and processes he had developed. Mid to late 1970's he became aware that his patents were being openly manufactured, sold, and used in Japan. He sought legal advice and commenced legal action in Japan in order to either stop these infringements or get some royalties paid. He told me he knew he was on a hiding to nothing when he realised his was the only white face in the court. He reckoned he would have had a better result if he had spent the $300,000 on beer, girls, and sports cars.
    URSUSMAJOR

  8. #28
    Roverlord off road spares is offline AT REST
    Major part of the heart and soul of AULRO.com
    Vendor

    Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Tecoma Vic
    Posts
    9,642
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    staun imitation deflators but they came free with the genuine black rat strap I bought which is why I have stauns and imitation set.
    I bought a subscription to 4WD action mag once and got a set of Genuine Stuans in a leather carry pouch with Staun embosssed on the leather.


  9. #29
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    2,535
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    snip
    He reckoned he would have had a better result if he had spent the $300,000 on beer, girls, and sports cars.
    hooyeh that's a LOT of fun for a long time...aahhh
    Jason

    2010 130 TDCi

  10. #30
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    13,786
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by clubagreenie View Post
    So where does it come in where a company like Ryco as soon as a new model comes out buys a spare filter and then copies it for dimensions but potentially improves ability to filter with better materials. It's still a filter, same size, copied from a genuine article. It's how it works, had a discussion when I found that their D2 filter was listed the same as the D1 whih is similar but slightly different in one dimension. Looks like it fits but doesn't seal if the D1 is fitted to D2, D2 into D1 you just need squeeze it in.
    Ryco/GUD are a minor player in the international filter scene, and their products are unobtainable outside AU/NZ/ZA. I doubt any of their filters are improvements over OEM designs. The largest filter manufacturers (Donaldson and MANN) have barely heard of GUD...

    But yes, filter manufacturers do this sort of thing all the time, but they are careful to make them different enough to skirt around patents.

    A a conference a while back, someone from Filter company B was asked by an audience member "what is the diference between your product and the (equivalent/original) product from filter company A. The presenter foolishly answered "If I was to be honest, I would say the colour". Immediately following, Filter company A lodged a lawsuit.

    Most of the claims of filter company A were dismissed in the lawsuit, however there are now a couple of countries where Filter company B is not allowed to sell that particular product.

    IP is meaningless unless it is patented. If the companies which have (allegedly) copied staun's products were smart enough when developing their products, then staun will not be able to touch them. I think any threats against retailers are hollow.

    [NB - I am not a lawyer]

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!