this would make me very nervous, record gun sales in US

This is a hilarious thread, guys, and thanks for the laugh. I love the idea that, with enough of us armed with our single-shot rifles, we would be able to form well-trained crack guerilla teams that would somehow be able to cover the vast distances needed to harrass our new overlords. Communications would be through, um, something, while we would get our food from, um, somewhere, all the while hiding, er, somewhere else, as meanwhile, 3000km away, another little group is doing the same thing, until finally the invaders decide it's too annoying being shot at once a week and go back home.

I have a .22 and a 12 gauge and I'm ready for 'em!!!!! Bring on the enemy with their attack helicopters, fighter jets, missiles, tanks, warships and thousands of troops with all their needless training!!!!!

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I would do what any other educated person would do,I would use my right to vote to put a Government in power that I feel would do the best for Australia,if it didn't work out I would again use my right to vote to remove them from power.

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If there were more firearms the government would think twice about doing any thing like it, the risk of taking away our rights would be too high.

I don't know how to respond to that,more firearms are the key to a happy and safe population,and Governments would do the right thing because if they didn't we would shoot them,mate no offence but your the type of person I don't want to see armed in public. Pat

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Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

Pat, no one wants the right to take a life. They want the right to defend one, theirs. Who gave governments the right to tell people how they can preserve their own own life when threatened.
And to the over exaggerators out there. No one is suggesting that the general population could fight off an invading army if that ever were to happen. But think about the flip side. It is one thing to take a country but its another thing to keep it. Armed citizens traditionally accept the invaders and then form guerilla forces against their occupation (except if you are French). We live in a beautiful, peaceful and resource rich country with a very small population. Things are great - at the moment. That could all change in a heartbeat. There is a word for people who go through life with blinkers on thinking that the benevolent government will always care for them - sheeple.
A governments role is to administer, not control.

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Never heard of the French Resistance??? [btw they did very well without guns]

...Another deluded, paranoid... :wasntme:

No wait, you are right, the whole world is just waiting to lead an armed invasion of Caboolture...

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I don't know how to respond to that,more firearms are the key to a happy and safe population,and Governments would do the right thing because if they didn't we would shoot them,mate no offence but your the type of person I don't want to see armed in public. Pat

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I'm not saying they do what we want or else. I'm saying they can't come and take you or your family away without the possibility that you'll be armed and ready to protect your own life and freedom.

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Originally Posted by Land-Rover

I'm not saying they do what we want or else. I'm saying they can't come and take you or your family away without the possibility that you'll be armed and ready to protect your own life and freedom.

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Because, odds are that as a CC/OC permit holder you will already have shot your family before any hypothetical criminal or government can get to you :wasntme:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDq-xZFbP2k]King of England - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY]The Simpsons - Gun Shop - YouTube[/ame]

Well I am in Hawaii at the moment and on a work trip for 10 days here.

I have just booked into a gun range to fire some guns. They are almost of every street corners and asking everyone to come in and buy some guns. It's mad

Always been into shotting but with rifles and shotguns

But as a bucket list thing I am going to shot a M16 , Ak47 , Uzi, sub machine gun , magnum and glock.

I know but while here and their stupid position on guns I might as well take advantage and have a go.

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Originally Posted by jakeslouw

Well, living in Africa I have a uniquely alternative view on this.

Suffice to say that one should NOT always assume that democracy cannot lead to oppression in a very short period.....Zimbabwe trip, anybody????

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That is a good point, but it leads to a disturbing assumption, in the case of the USA. I can understand your nervousness in South Africa, regarding Zimbabwe, and one or two other dodgy places, especially after fighting the war against S. W. Africa & their Cuban mates. However, in the case of the USA, looking from afar I can only make the assumption their law abiding citizens are concerned about a breakdown in Civil order, leading to internal chaos. I'm fairly sure that's not about to happen, but I can't get away from the fact something is making a lot of their citizens nervous. Bob

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Originally Posted by Land-Rover

I'm not saying they do what we want or else. I'm saying they can't come and take you or your family away without the possibility that you'll be armed and ready to protect your own life and freedom.

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You have a pop-gun at home, the eeeeevil guvmint haz drone strikes. Take that guvmint!!!!

If a government officer wants to take your rights away, he's not going to politely knock on your door wearing a bobby's hat. No, it's going to be a crack team of soldiers, a black maria and an armoured vehicle or two. And you're going to do damage with some legal weapons? Don't make me laugh so hard, it's painful.

I guess that's why they used the term "A well regulated militia". It was never meant to be an individual's fight. It just uses the individual's defined right to keep and bear arms.