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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    We got one, its fine.
    We worked out the new vac pump we have pulls down to 150microns,as per its specs, and the gauge sits at 150,so all good

    It is hardly ever used these days, probably because not only do we have no need to,we sort of don't trust it.

    The ones we used years ago were all analogue, seemed to work well.

    Really stretching my memory,and maybe dreaming, but I am sure we had a couple with mercury in them?
    I reckon the only reliable ones are the old inclined manometers.
    And I'm no luddite, I really like a lot of the modern tech but our vacstats give me the pips! One for the fridgies

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Rick, Paul and Des (with the grey muzzle).

    "You calling me a Blue Beard, Black beard?"


    Bloody charmin' .
    A blue beard is an allegory of abnormality. It Is said that Bluebeard's facial hair “made him so frightfully ugly, that all the women and girls ran away from him”. This means that there is something about him that makes other people be afraid of him. The author leaves it to our imagination.4 Apr 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    I reckon the only reliable ones are the old inclined manometers.
    And I'm no luddite, I really like a lot of the modern tech but our vacstats give me the pips! One for the fridgies

    Or you could just accept that 29" is sufficient & bugger off to the next job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    I reckon the only reliable ones are the old inclined manometers.
    And I'm no luddite, I really like a lot of the modern tech but our vacstats give me the pips! One for the fridgies
    For water balancing, in the day, the electronic stuff was just starting to turn up, but I kept going with the mercury manometer, it was the best.
    We had a couple of perspex ones for the lower pressure systems, and a glass ones for the higher pressure systems.

    No worries at all, unless one opened the wrong valve, and the mercury disappeared

    A lot of this modern crap gives me the pips, probably nothing wrong with it, its just me being old school.

    Easy to lose stuff,from the memory, if not doing it regularly, today I had to replace one of those Tacm controllers,couldnt remember how to set it used to know that off the top of my head, even the newer model with the 24hr time clock.

    Sat there today scratching my head reading the instructions like a monkey

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    I have to refer to the instructions for them, too, don't worry One for the fridgies
    I haven't had to set one for years.
    I think maybe in Emerald two years ago?
    [Edit] it was three years ago this Sunday.
    Citrus de-greening room below. One for the fridgies

    Little bit of trivia, Dad and I setup and had the very first Phasefale VatPac certified for use in NSW in the late 80's.

    I used to know the Carel stuff inide out, not anymore as we mainly use Emerson here.
    Last edited by rick130; 13th April 2021 at 05:01 AM.

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    [QUOTE=rick130;3077234]I have to refer to the instructions for them, too, don't worry One for the fridgies
    I haven't had to set one for years.
    I think maybe in Emerald two years ago?
    [Edit] it was three years ago this Sunday.
    Citrus de-greening room below. One for the fridgies

    Little bit of trivia, Dad and I setup and had the very first Phasefale VatPac certified for use in NSW in the late 80's.

    I used to know the Carel stuff inide out, not anymore as we mainly use Emerson here.
    AAh, whatever happened to the "good olde days" of Fiberglass batts

    What is the principle there Rick of Citrus Degreening?

    That setup takes me back a bit btw.

    Just asking for a friend, you understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    For water balancing, in the day, the electronic stuff was just starting to turn up, but I kept going with the mercury manometer, it was the best.
    We had a couple of perspex ones for the lower pressure systems, and a glass ones for the higher pressure systems.

    No worries at all, unless one opened the wrong valve, and the mercury disappeared

    A lot of this modern crap gives me the pips, probably nothing wrong with it, its just me being old school.

    Easy to lose stuff,from the memory, if not doing it regularly, today I had to replace one of those Tacm controllers,couldnt remember how to set it used to know that off the top of my head, even the newer model with the 24hr time clock.

    Sat there today scratching my head reading the instructions like a monkey
    Coincidence that. Ian came along with his camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee[/quote
    AAh, whatever happened to the "good olde days" of Fiberglass batts

    What is the principle there Rick of Citrus Degreening?

    That setup takes me back a bit btw.

    Just asking for a friend, you understand.
    Run how ever many tonnes of fruit into that room and pump it full of ethylene gas (hence the opening at the bottom) to quick ripen it.
    I can't even remember what temp the system ran at but it had a pair of Bitzer semi condensing units in its own little hootchy behind. And a bloody big genset beside it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    AAh, whatever happened to the "good olde days" of Fiberglass batts

    What is the principle there Rick of Citrus Degreening?

    That setup takes me back a bit btw.

    Just asking for a friend, you understand.
    Run how ever many tonnes of fruit into that room and pump it full of ethylene gas (hence the opening at the bottom) to quick ripen it.
    I can't even remember what temp the system ran at but it had a pair of Bitzer semi condensing units in its own little hootchy behind. And a bloody big genset beside it.[/QUOTE]



    There was me thinking maybe the Coolroom install gang had not completed it. A turn-up for the books eh, introducing outside air into a what appears to be an otherwise tightly sealed room? Friend Google tells me that is necessary to achieve the correct % of Ethylene to Air mix. Have never heard of that previously but Adelaide didn't have much in the way of citrus orchards green or otherwise. That is probably more akin to SA's Riverland Area & I believe a lot of those have disappeared to make way for King Grape..


    Me? All I had was Apples & Pears to play with & some of those were in huge, & high spaces. Vapour Sealing of those was also very important & I would have given my left(& right) Nads to have had the use of that mobile scissor platform of yours. Try hanging a few bloody heavy Dunham Bush Fan coils (probably 3m wide) from a ceiling height of, from memory, 15' ceilings & sometimes higher, from a ladder & possibly some sort of scaffolding of the time." 'elf & safety? wot 'elf & safety was that Squire?"
    I suppose I should be thankful that we weren't using stripped Stringy Bush Poles & planks like builders had to to raise brick walls. Oh yes, we did sometimes have to build a scaffolding of sorts from the Bulk Fruit Bins one above the other precariously.


    Later, as the rooms were better established & operating we had the luxury of Fruit bins on Fork lift forks for servicing. Such unwobbly bliss on icy concrete floors, not.
    But we always went home with a decent bag of assorted Fruit, compliments of the owners for our risky Daredevil circus aerial performances to keep the jobs moving.

    EDIT>>>...........Just realised Rick, in that photo am I looking at daylight outside or a length of white Piping at the wall?
    Yeah say it Mr Bee "Ah Happy days"

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    With all this fruit room chatter, back in the day, stretching the memory, around Gladstone area, we used to service these huge fruit rooms.

    They worked with an evaporative condenser as the evaporator, four to each room, all on R22,Copeland semi compressors.

    There were six huge rooms on the site, maybe bananas from memory?

    Thats about all I can remember.
    And the only fruit room gear I have had anything to do with, apart from rooms and cabinets in fruit shops.

    Seen those Milk Vat Tacm in the catalogue, but have never used one.
    The Tacm is probably one of the easier controllers to programme, but the catch is set point is cut in and if the real time time clock is not set up it will never defrost.
    And reliability wise, not at the top of the list.

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