Thread: One for the fridgies

Originally Posted by scarry

And complaining they are freezing cold,instead of the too hot winging that has been going on for the last 3 months

That olde one.


I always found Offices were the hardest to satisfy every occupant. Too many desks & people & all wanted their own comfort zone from a central system on demand, especially Women at certain times of the month. Too hot, too cold, Too draughty, Too not enough draft (circulation) etc etc etc. Sometimes you even found the Initial Contractor hadn't even fitted Manual Balancing Dampers.

Sometimes the person sitting adjacent to the RA took control of the thermostat & buggered everything up.

Sometimes they were proper Nazis with it.



You eventually get it about right & then they leave the job & some new **** wants their preferences..


Ah Happy Days.

Hi,
Moved into a new office building in 71.
Aircon!
Amazing!
BUT always a bit chilly.
Many requests for a better temp seemed to fall on deaf ears.
Eventually the troops started tweaking the thermostats.
We got even colder.
Turned it to Max, anything to get warm.

Meanwhile.

In alternative universe, next floor down it was too hot.
They too had become tired of the temp, albeit too hot.

Comparing notes, we decided an experiment was in order to shake the tree and see what fruit would fall.
We turned ours down, they turned theirs up.
Bingo!
Thermostats controlling the wrong floors.

The problem and solution thus presented to management resulted in the appropriate maintenance and happy troops on all floors.

Cheers

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
Moved into a new office building in 71.
Aircon!
Amazing!
BUT always a bit chilly.
Many requests for a better temp seemed to fall on deaf ears.
Eventually the troops started tweaking the thermostats.
We got even colder.
Turned it to Max, anything to get warm.

Meanwhile.

In alternative universe, next floor down it was too hot.
They too had become tired of the temp, albeit too hot.

Comparing notes, we decided an experiment was in order to shake the tree and see what fruit would fall.
We turned ours down, they turned theirs up.
Bingo!
Thermostats controlling the wrong floors.

The problem and solution thus presented to management resulted in the appropriate maintenance and happy troops on all floors.

Cheers

You wouldn't be surprised just how often that happens/ happened. A smidgen excuses when you consider the cable bundles that have to be pulled through floor to floor & some new to the job sparky gets the job.

Originally Posted by 4bee

You wouldn't be surprised just how often that happens/ happened. A smidgen excuses when you consider the cable bundles that have to be pulled through floor to floor & some new to the job sparky gets the job.

Seen it a hundred times,cables crossed over,wrong sensors,controlling wrong units,VAV's,or re heats,wrong pilot solenoids,wiring for zones crossed over,pressure switches cutting out the wrong compressers.
Pipes crossed over feeding wrong coils,chilled water going the wrong way,through chillers and coils,fan blades on the wrong way,or the motor going the wrong way,dual fan decks with one fan wheel on backwards,and on it goes...
You would be surprised how many systems operate incorrectly for years,until a fault,sometimes completely unrelated appears,and a tech then starts to look closely at the system.

We once came across a system some other clowns had piped up,wrong liquid line going to wrong evaporator.Two compressers,separate systems in one AC unit.
It all worked fine unitil one compresser failed.
Luckily it didnt have a two stage thermostat.

Many moons ago,i remember working on a huge yacht "Condor of Bermuda".They had just had the refrigeration system "refurbished" in NZ before leaving for Aus,and it had not worked properly since.
I found not only was one system full of R12,when it should of been R502,the other system had two out of six TX valves fitted in backwards

Originally Posted by 4bee

That olde one.


I always found Offices were the hardest to satisfy every occupant.

Ah Happy Days.

Often there are two people sitting next to each other, in an office,one complaing they are cold,the other hot.

We often tell them,yes,turned it up half a degree,or down half a degree,do nothing,and then next day they say its a lot better

Works (almost) every time

Originally Posted by scarry

Seen it a hundred times,cables crossed over,wrong sensors,controlling wrong units,VAV's,or re heats,wrong pilot solenoids,wiring for zones crossed over,pressure switches cutting out the wrong compressers.
Pipes crossed over feeding wrong coils,chilled water going the wrong way,through chillers and coils,fan blades on the wrong way,or the motor going the wrong way,dual fan decks with one fan wheel on backwards,and on it goes...
You would be surprised how many systems operate incorrectly for years,until a fault,sometimes completely unrelated appears,and a tech then starts to look closely at the system.

We once came across a system some other clowns had piped up,wrong liquid line going to wrong evaporator.Two compressers,separate systems in one AC unit.
It all worked fine unitil one compresser failed.
Luckily it didnt have a two stage thermostat.

Many moons ago,i remember working on a huge yacht "Condor of Bermuda".They had just had the refrigeration system "refurbished" in NZ before leaving for Aus,and it had not worked properly since.
I found not only was one system full of R12,when it should of been R502,the other system had two out of six TX valves fitted in backwards

Jesus Paul you do get all the good jobs. Not.


You rectify any problems with Design & operation & you get back to the workshop & get a message that the thing ain't working properly, or as it used to.

Times like that you wish you could recall what you did to "fix" it? Then offer to go back & do it & put it back to Square one. For a fee of course old boy.


As it used to be said by someone, "You & Paul (I'll use your name because that is what it is) are too smart for this world you should grease your arse & slide to the next one". Huh?

Not sure, but I reckon the Golgafrinchians might have loaded you lot onto Ark Flight ship B..... Me too, of course.

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
Moved into a new office building in 71.
Aircon!
Amazing!
BUT always a bit chilly.
Many requests for a better temp seemed to fall on deaf ears.
Eventually the troops started tweaking the thermostats.
We got even colder.
Turned it to Max, anything to get warm.

Meanwhile.

In alternative universe, next floor down it was too hot.
They too had become tired of the temp, albeit too hot.

Comparing notes, we decided an experiment was in order to shake the tree and see what fruit would fall.
We turned ours down, they turned theirs up.
Bingo!
Thermostats controlling the wrong floors.

The problem and solution thus presented to management resulted in the appropriate maintenance and happy troops on all floors.

Cheers

I have found a lot of office staff don't help their cause by putting posters, bookcases, cupboards, etc, over sensors or printers under sensors, some even bringing their own heater in from home!