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    Quote Originally Posted by seano87 View Post
    The DPP prosecutes. They don't exactly have quite the same choice as a defence lawyer.
    It's not quite as clear cut as that.

    I've think we're getting off topic.

    Getting HIV is a risk when u penetrate someone. Consent or no consent doesn't increase or decrease that risk.

    That might sound cold but that's the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    Getting HIV is a risk when u penetrate someone. Consent or no consent doesn't increase or decrease that risk.

    That might sound cold but that's the way it is.
    That may be the case, but if you penetrate someone illegally, it's not their fault if you then get HIV.
    Particularly as this woman was unconscious, she couldn't say to said scum sucking parasite of a rapist "Stop, I have HIV"
    QED it's not her problem, it's his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    That may be the case, but if you penetrate someone illegally, it's not their fault if you then get HIV.
    Particularly as this woman was unconscious, she couldn't say to said scum sucking parasite of a rapist "Stop, I have HIV"
    QED it's not her problem, it's his.
    Whos saying its her problem??

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    Then we need to look at the questioning of sentencing.

    For instance, there's an example of a magistrate giving a rapist a lighter sentence because it was more considerate to have slashed the victims throat before raping her than after. Despite the fact she lived through it all.

    Now that's ****ed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubagreenie View Post
    Now that's ****ed up.
    That's a slight understatement.
    The fact that irritates me is the fact that if a person admits to an offence, they're required to receive a lesser sentence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    That's a slight understatement.
    The fact that irritates me is the fact that if a person admits to an offence, they're required to receive a lesser sentence
    try and look at it the other way around.

    if they deny they did the offence, they need a bigger punishment to convince them/rehabilitate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    try and look at it the other way around.

    if they deny they did the offence, they need a bigger punishment to convince them/rehabilitate them.
    Doesn't work though.
    Studies have shown that harshness of punishment is no-where near as effective a deterrent as certainty of punishment.
    Doesn't matter how harsh the punishment is, if the potential offender thinks they're going to get away with it the harshness of the punishment isn't really a consideration.
    I just disagree with the idea that if someone commits an act like murder, rape, pedophilia, particularly if they're a repeat offender, then just because they say yes I did it doesn't entitle them to a lesser punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    Doesn't work though.
    Studies have shown that harshness of punishment is no-where near as effective a deterrent as certainty of punishment.
    Doesn't matter how harsh the punishment is, if the potential offender thinks they're going to get away with it the harshness of the punishment isn't really a consideration.
    I just disagree with the idea that if someone commits an act like murder, rape, pedophilia, particularly if they're a repeat offender, then just because they say yes I did it doesn't entitle them to a lesser punishment.
    ive read that the death penalty doesnt work as a deterrent at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    ive read that the death penalty doesnt work as a deterrent at all.
    Perhaps because a large majority of the offenders were under the influence of drugs or suffering the withdraws of prescribed drugs for mental issues?
    I do not know but would be interesting to see if there is a independent study about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    ive read that the death penalty doesnt work as a deterrent at all.
    People's views on the effectiveness of punishment as a deterrent depends on what criminological theory they subscribe to.
    Classical perspectives assume all humans a rational creatures that make decisions based on the pleasure/pain principle, thus when the expected pleasure of an action exceeds the potential pain that may result, they're more motivated to go ahead with that action.
    As such, the punishment of death would be the highest deterrent.
    But, the major problem people have with rational choice is that it assumes we're all rational, which as we all know is a bit of a naive idea.
    Consider, once someone is sentenced to death, what exactly do they have to lose?
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