Thread: Waking up Australia to compassion.

Originally Posted by amtravic1

And the rest got gassed or shot! People forget very quickly don't they.

I am sick of the bleeding hearts who think we should just accept every one. There are plenty of AUSTRALIANS who need help and don't get it. Spend our money to help our people first. Imagine how many more hospitals we could have, how much better the schools and welfare system could be (for those who need it) if we did not have to spend billions and these so called refugees.
I pay heaps in tax and object to even one dollar of it going to these boat people.
As for plenty of space here for more people, thats just crap. I don't want any more people in Australia than what there is now, it is already too overcrowded. When I was a kid you could go away for the weekend and see almost no one. These days there is always someone else around.

Yep, I can imagine more hospitals, more schools better welfare. If only. If only we didn't waste millions on millions of dollars on invading other countries and destroying their countries and creating the bulk of the current refugee problem that we have now.

Just think if we didn't invade to rid Iraq of all of those weapons of mass destruction, we would have less refugees, more hospitals, more schools, better welfare. Maybe even less taxes

Support the invasion did you? Then live with the consequences.

Tom.

Don't think of this problem as a National problem, bring it down to a personal level.
Are you prepared to happily accept any unknown person/family at all who simply walks in from where ever, through your unbolted back door, uninvited and unvetted, and then treat them the same way that you treat the rest of your family.
Most families would treat this as a house invasion or burglary or some other such crime!
We even get sick and tired of close relations after a couple of weeks.
Suddenly it is a very different picture.
Regards
Glen

Originally Posted by mikehzz

------ it's all about how many are getting shot and by whom.--------

How many people reading this, have looked into the face of a survivor of the Rwandan Genocide, while having a conversation with them, here in Australia ? ------ I have.

The weapons dealers from the civilised world have a lot to answer for .

Without weapons, being anything like machetes, firearms and their ammunition, just how long would these wars go for?

Ref; Machetes and Firearms: The Organization of Massacres in Rwanda

" This article is a quantitative study of the use of machetes and firearms during the 1994 genocide in Rwanda, Kibuye Prefecture. The machete is an agricultural tool owned by most Rwandan households and is believed to have been the prime instrument of killing during the genocide. The article addresses the question to what extent individual characteristics of victims (gender, age, occupation) and aspects of the Rwandan genocide (location of atrocities, point in time during the genocide) determined the perpetrators’ use of modern rather than traditional weapons to kill individual victims. An original database developed by the organization of the survivors of the genocide (IBUKA) is used. The data were collected from 1996 to 1999 and contain information on the deaths of 59,050 victims. Logistical regression analysis is performed to explain the use of either a traditional weapon or a firearm to kill the victims. The analysis shows that the probability of being killed with a firearm depended on the location where the victim was killed (more particularly, on whether or not the victim was killed in a large-scale massacre); on the commune of residence and the age of the victim; on the number of days after 6 April the victim was killed; and on interaction effects between the latter two variables and the gender of the victim. The importance of individual characteristics, location of atrocities and timing for the use of different kinds of weapons adds to our understanding of the organized nature of the Rwandan genocide. "

I copied that article in full as I didn't want to flavour any part of that story by posting it in part.

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Originally Posted by amtravic1

I have no compassion for these people at all. They have allowed their own countries to turn to rubbish and then try and come here illegally and bring all their issues with them Very few seem to try fit in with our culture but demand we Australians allow them to continue with their old ways and values (and religion).
The people coming here on boats are the wealthy who can afford to pay, but do not want to go through official channels or know they will not be accepted here if they did, not the real refugees stuck in camps somewhere.
I am glad we are turning back the boats as best we can and the people coming on them who are caught in Australian waters will have no chance of ever living here. I believe people who break our laws to come here will have little respect for our laws and way of life if they are allowed to stay here.

100% Agree...and I am not against GENUINE "REFUGEES".....but I am against these well fed, gold chained, manicured people, paying & illegally coming to OUR country.
Like I said when John Howard was in power, at the time he said, "We will determine who comes to Australia". At the time I said, & STILL say, "I ain't against refugees, GENUINE refugees".
Also at that time I said, if John Howard said, "Well I'm going to bring not 5000, but 50,000, but we are going to visit the camps etc where people have no food, no roof over their head, no money, NO HOPE (These are genuine refugees), and we will take 50,000 of these people, only thing is, you will all have to pay more tax to pay for this",....I would not have a problem, I would pay.....I think most Aussies would.
Cheers, Pickles.

Arthur, I hope that this image get into the brains of some people that cannot or cannot understand the tragic actions of humanity

This thread is a wonderful reminder of why I should stay in the technical sections of aulro..

Originally Posted by flagg

This thread is a wonderful reminder of why I should stay in the technical sections of aulro..

perhaps ?

Originally Posted by Bearman

Arthur, you are going to open a can of worms with this thread!

"Without freedom of thought there can be no such thing as wisdom and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech. - Benjamin Franklin, 1722"
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