Thread: Waking up Australia to compassion.

Originally Posted by Saitch

As far as I know there's no such word as "eh"
So what are you getting at

I always thought that was how Queenslanders ended their sentences.

Originally Posted by bob10

------------- I am sure, the majority of ------ immigrants to this country are here for the right reasons, they just need these radicals out of their faces. The problem we face IMO, is sorting the radicals from those who just want to have a better life for themselves, & their children, Especially their children. Our challenge is to sort these decent people from the those who just want to cause strife. I have to admit, I'm not sure our Government, of either persuasion, is up to the task. In the meantime, I believe it is up to the average citizen in this country to ensure the genuine refugees are accepted, & helped to assimilate in this country. --------

If you have any concerns about individuals or groups ring; The National Security Hotline . 1800 1234 00

Ref; Australian National Security - The National Security Hotline

National Security Hotline, 1800 1234 00. Trained operators take every call seriously. You can remain anonymous.

The National Security Hotline is the single point of contact for the public to report possible signs of terrorism. It also provides information to callers on a wide range of national security matters.

Small pieces of information can help protect Australia from terrorism. Australia’s national security agencies are working hard but members of the public can help them complete the picture.

Some of the best people to spot things that are out of the ordinary in a neighbourhood or workplace are those who are there everyday. As we go about our daily lives, we can keep an eye out for anything that may seem unusual or suspicious. Whether or not something is suspicious can depend on the circumstances. Look at the situation as a whole. If it doesn’t add up, call the 24-hour National Security Hotline.

Trained operators take every call seriously and you can remain anonymous. Information is passed on to Australia’s police and security agencies for analysis and further investigation. Remember, every piece of information helps.

The National Security Hotline number is 1800 1234 00.

If you are travelling overseas you can call the Hotline on (+61) 1300 1234 01.

If you do not speak English well, call the Translating and Interpreting Hotline on 13 14 50 and ask them to contact the National Security Hotline and interpret for you.

For TTY users the number is 1800 234 889.

You can also contact the National Security Hotline in the following ways:

Email: hotline@nationalsecurity.gov.au
TXT: 0408 123 490
MMS: 0429 771 822

Mail: National Security Hotline
Attorney-General’s Department
3-5 National Circuit
BARTON ACT 2600

I heard a sad story today. Let me give you a bit of background information first.
Vietnam is in our region. That is one of the reasons we have a large Vietnamese community here. A lot of Vietnamese escaped horrific circumstances and came here. I'll admit it was a rocky road but now they are part of our community.
When I look at a map I can see other countries are part of our region. Sri Lanka and the Pacific islands.
There is still political persecution going on in Sri Lanka I'm told and I'm also told some Pacific islands are being washed away. Being in our region, we have a duty to help out.
As far as I am aware, the middle east is not in our region. Middle eastern countries have a duty to help out other middle eastern countries.
Now the sad story. I heard an Australian woman who was born in Sri Lanka, fled persecution and was accepted into Australia as a refugee tell of the difficulty in getting her mother (who is also being persecuted) accepted into Australia as a refugee. I thought we were about reuniting families.
Thas Sri Lankan woman was citing "refugee intake quota" as one of the difficulties she is dealing with.
I wouldn't think she has a high opinion of queue jumpers as well.

Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

Herein lies the problem.
If they are being threatened with violence, I'd expect they'd knock on the first door they could reach in their street, maybe a neighbor.
It stretches the story and waters down the seriousness of their plight if they pass up the first door and go looking for a 'nice looking one in a nice street' many suburbs or towns away.

Ralph

Maybe something like this:

White Detroit-area man charged with murder of black woman | Reuters

Prosecutors charged a white suburban Detroit homeowner with second-degree murder on Friday, after he killed a young black woman with a shotgun blast to the face when she knocked on his door in the middle of the night seeking help after a car crash.

She may have been silly to be intoxicated, had marijuana in her system and ended up having an accident but did she deserve to be shot "accidentally"?

Bob

Originally Posted by bobslandies

Maybe something like this:

White Detroit-area man charged with murder of black woman | Reuters

Prosecutors charged a white suburban Detroit homeowner with second-degree murder on Friday, after he killed a young black woman with a shotgun blast to the face when she knocked on his door in the middle of the night seeking help after a car crash.

She may have been silly to be intoxicated, had marijuana in her system and ended up having an accident but did she deserve to be shot "accidentally"?

Bob

That is a risk Americans are willing to accept.

There should never be an accidental discharge of a firearm its stupidity Having said that there is more to that story than has been reported so far like the accident was several blocks away from where she was shot and exactly how she tried to "ask" for help but then she may have been very disoriented from the crash and drugs and alcohol still very sad

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

That is a risk Americans are willing to accept.

No argument with you there Mick. If she was breaking in - reasonable response.

We have the stupid opposite. The anti-gun lobby have been so successful with politicians of most persuasions pandering to them.
"Fight Crime on the spot - Shoot Back" is now defunct.

Many years ago a friend with a gunshop and repair business was stuck up by two crims. Result - one dead, one running - what were they thinking?

Back in the early 'sixties another friend who was a traveller for a firearm importing business was forced off the road by some bikies. They took off into the bush when he leapt out of the car firing warning shots. He then amused himself shooting holes in strategic parts of their bikes and reported it to the police in the next town. It was called protecting public safety then.

Could not happen today, just hand over the guns and get shot dead so you cannot identify the robbers.

Bob

So to answer the OP's original point; a valid one, politely put, my answer is NO. I do not see a role for compassion in the illegal entry issue.

I'll go further, I claim compassion, if that's what you call Rudd's legacy after the disastrous change in policy, is counterproductive and has increased human misery not lessened it.

Who we take from the camps, how many, and what we do for them when they get, compassion has a place. But in illegal arrivals absolutely not. And I'll claim the high moral ground too for what it's worth.