Thread: Ex Army 110 differences?

Originally Posted by 4x4 MORE

I see, so best option is keep the rover front diff and put stronger axels and CV's in it?

Ashcroft for EG

I can see you're lost! The Perentie CVs ARE already the strongest upgrade. You can't upgrade what is the best. Ashcroft axle shafts are the same dimensions, but made of better material. The front diff will happily live on 33" tyres, and if you're mechanically sympathetic you can get away with 35s with out the need for upgrades.

G'Day 4x4xmore, thought Iwould put my replies in the thread hust in case I accidentally sprout some wisdom

"I am aware that crivilian and ex army 110's, 130's have a
Sailsbury rear diff which is virtually unbreakable i have been told"
Made of steel, made by humans and driven by diggers, everything has a limited life and is only preserved by mechanical sympathy.

Now with the weaker front rover diff, what can you do so it can handle big tyres, lockers, heavy right foot?
Control of the right foot is the ONLY thing that will make or break a set up, look at the no-expense-spared Dakar Rally-Raid crowd!

You can't put a Sailsbury diff in the front?
Sure can. the ready made ones are rare and expensive, ~$2-2.5 K, and a pain to fit.

As others have said:
Fit lockers and aftermarket axles for traction and peace of mind
Limit tyres to 33" or 35 if you can control the red mist
Most importantly- Don't drive like a dick and then complain when things break!

I drove the Surveillance version for a few years around the Cape and Gulf, mostly cross-country, and never broke a thing.
I HAVE seen a swivel housing and wheel sitting in a ditch due to a too-high entry speed into a washout!
They had a heavier front diff and grippier tyres but that wouldn't have changed a thing.

BUT HANG ON GUYS

The Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers. Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere.

I had a bit of a read...I assume the 1 ton Landrovers they are talking about are the army 110's we have over here..

Land Rover Differentials - Rover Salisbury ENV Diffs for Landrover

So Salisbury diffs fitted back and front..

Originally Posted by 4x4 MORE

BUT HANG ON GUYS

The Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers. Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere.

I had a bit of a read...I assume the 1 ton Landrovers they are talking about are the army 110's we have over here..

No - One ton landrovers is a specific model that was never sold in Aust and was not a 110 but a 109 (series 3 I believe) - there may be private imports.

The Perenti is a variant of the early Aussie County Diesel.

The only model in Aust that had salsburys in the front was the 101 and that is far from a fit for the 110s.

Dam!

I really am trying to understand this

Originally Posted by Barefoot Dave

G'Day 4x4xmore, thought Iwould put my replies in the thread hust in case I accidentally sprout some wisdom

"I am aware that civilian and ex army 110's, 130's have a
Sailsbury rear diff which is virtually unbreakable i have been told"
Made of steel, made by humans and driven by diggers, everything has a limited life and is only preserved by mechanical sympathy.

Now with the weaker front rover diff, what can you do so it can handle big tyres, lockers, heavy right foot?
Control of the right foot is the ONLY thing that will make or break a set up, look at the no-expense-spared Dakar Rally-Raid crowd!

You can't put a Sailsbury diff in the front?
Sure can. the ready made ones are rare and expensive, ~$2-2.5 K, and a pain to fit.

As others have said:
Fit lockers and aftermarket axles for traction and peace of mind
Limit tyres to 33" or 35 if you can control the red mist
Most importantly- Don't drive like a dick and then complain when things break!

I drove the Surveillance version for a few years around the Cape and Gulf, mostly cross-country, and never broke a thing.
I HAVE seen a swivel housing and wheel sitting in a ditch due to a too-high entry speed into a washout!
They had a heavier front diff and grippier tyres but that wouldn't have changed a thing.

So Army 110's have 6 pinion front diff, and civilian 110's have 4 pinion front rover diffs?, best way to upgrade the civilian 110's is to use Ashcroft cv;s and axles?

???

6pin??
Now you have me scratching my head...
No.
Most 4x4 got Std rover 2 pin front diff.
Surveillance and 6x6 get the same type of 4 pin, internal and externally braced diff
all 4x4 diffs are 3.54:1 ratio
all 6x6 get 4.7:1 ratio
All rear diffs are Salisbury

all explained over 80+pages in my book. that and a whole lot more that you won't find here or on wikipedia
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