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    Quote Originally Posted by Rurover View Post
    Our friends across the Tasman have tackled this issue by adopting a national "no fault insurance scheme which basically prevents the lawyers from cashing in on accidents whether in the workplace, at home, on the roads or wherever.

    Quote: The ACC Scheme is administered on a no-fault basis, so that anyone regardless of the way in which they incurred an injury, is eligible for coverage under the Scheme. Due to the Scheme's no-fault basis, people who have suffered personal injury do not have the right to sue an at-fault party, except for exemplary damages.

    Here's a link to the Wikipedia page that explains the scheme in much more detail.
    Accident Compensation Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    No you may wonder why those smart Kiwis do the adventure tourism thing better than anybody else in the world. Well, when you have a no fault insurance scheme, you don't have to worry so much about expensive and prohibitive regulations preventing you from having fun (and making money).

    Worth noting that back in the days of the rather short lived Gough Government, they were about to introduce a similar scheme into the federal parliament. But then Sir John Kerr stepped in and sadly the idea died. (Too many lawyers in parliament perhaps??)

    I'd love to see it get a run again. Can we sign a petition of something?

    Alan
    I understand the NZ scheme applies only to NZ residents.
    If you are a visitor and are injured, I think they look after you while you are there, but if you want to go back home then any care and compensation stops.

    Our NDIS apparently stops looking after you at 65 and / or won't take you on after that age. Your super or the pension is supposed to be enough to look after your needs.

    Sorry. The thread digresses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RHS58 View Post
    I understand the NZ scheme applies only to NZ residents.
    If you are a visitor and are injured, I think they look after you while you are there, but if you want to go back home then any care and compensation stops.

    Our NDIS apparently stops looking after you at 65 and / or won't take you on after that age. Your super or the pension is supposed to be enough to look after your needs.

    Sorry. The thread digresses.
    Bull****. Perhaps before you go calling anyone names you should at least use google.

    FAQ's on the NDIS

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    I'd typed 2 relies to this, but both got erased by my iPhone due to technical issues!

    So the short version is, OHS does indeed go mad. It also goes mad in the UK & Europe.
    However, I could probably live with it more easily if actual issue were resolved when they were brought up.
    Two perennial issues in refrigeration / A/C are: safe or sensible access for maintenance. And site rules like (for e.g.) 'All roofs may only be accessed if 2 or more men are present, due to site staff's inability to see that you require assistance.' That get ignored because the client refuses to pay for the second bloke.

    To me, when OHS really goes mad is when obvious issue like these are ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akelly View Post
    Bull****. Perhaps before you go calling anyone a liar you should at least use google.

    FAQ's on the NDIS

    Thanks for that. I've obviously touched a nerve.

    I wrote :
    "Our NDIS apparently stops looking after you at 65 and / or won't take you on after that age"

    An excerpt directly from your link above:

    "Q. Who will be eligible?


    Eligibility for individual support packages and financial support depends on:
    ........
    ........
    People aged over 65 years at the time they request NDIS support will not be eligible. However, future participants can choose to continue with the NDIS once they turn 65."


    So, not bullsh*** is it?

    Lotsa holes in NDIS, and we still await the fine detail.
    I have my doubts it will properly look after those in need, and in a timely manner. And thats my major concern.

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    By all means keep discussing the NDIS and what it may or may not cover, but please keep the party politics out of it. If you have noticed a couple of posts have already been edited. It would make my life simpler if you just didn't do it.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RHS58 View Post
    Thanks for that. I've obviously touched a nerve.

    I wrote :
    "Our NDIS apparently stops looking after you at 65 and / or won't take you on after that age"

    An excerpt directly from your link above:

    "Q. Who will be eligible?


    Eligibility for individual support packages and financial support depends on:
    ........
    ........
    People aged over 65 years at the time they request NDIS support will not be eligible. However, future participants can choose to continue with the NDIS once they turn 65."


    So, not bullsh*** is it?

    Lotsa holes in NDIS, and we still await the fine detail.
    I have my doubts it will properly look after those in need, and in a timely manner. And thats my major concern.
    Just to clarify, it looks like you are both right and wrong on some points. Looks like it will continue to look after you once you turn 65 if you are already signed up, but won't take you on after you're 65 if you haven't.

    And I don't think the current system looks after anyone in need properly or in a timely manner, so it is a step in the right direction IMO.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHS58 View Post
    Thanks for that. I've obviously touched a nerve.

    I wrote :
    "Our NDIS apparently stops looking after you at 65 and / or won't take you on after that age"

    An excerpt directly from your link above:

    "Q. Who will be eligible?


    Eligibility for individual support packages and financial support depends on:
    ........
    ........
    People aged over 65 years at the time they request NDIS support will not be eligible. However, future participants can choose to continue with the NDIS once they turn 65."


    So, not bullsh*** is it?

    Lotsa holes in NDIS, and we still await the fine detail.
    I have my doubts it will properly look after those in need, and in a timely manner. And thats my major concern.
    Yes, it is bull****. As you have quoted, people who are accessing a disability service when they turn 65 will get continuity of support. People over 65 are not entitled to join the NDIS because they are catered for by another program.

    As for awaiting 'fine detail' - what are you waiting for? The legislation is freely available. Perhaps educating yourself would prevent you trotting out this sort of nonsense in the future? 3 seconds with google might do you a world of good.

    National Disability Insurance Scheme Act 2013

    Legislation, rules and government agreements | National Disability Insurance Scheme

    http://www.carersact.org.au/Assets/F...-NDIS-Bill.pdf

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    Just saw this, and thought of this thread...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    Just to clarify, it looks like you are both right and wrong on some points. Looks like it will continue to look after you once you turn 65 if you are already signed up, but won't take you on after you're 65 if you haven't.

    And I don't think the current system looks after anyone in need properly or in a timely manner, so it is a step in the right direction IMO.
    Agree with that.
    Thread has gone off topic and I followed.
    I apologise for my part.
    Strong opinions on this forum, and we are all entitled to our own.
    Respect others even if I may not fully agree.
    Shall we go back to OHS GONE MAD....

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    "...Shall we go back to OHS GONE MAD.... ..."



    ... is it safe. . ?.

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