Thread: Bull bar blitz: rural drivers fined

Originally Posted by V8Ian

In regards to your last comment, John. I have a panel beating mate in western Queensland who says most of his work is due to a specific breed of macropod ; the square legged kangaroo, common name _guide post.

Interestingly, round here the guide posts are not going to damage even an unprotected car (very light metal, some even have rubber bases so they stand up again!) - and the trees beyond them usually give little business to panelbeaters - more often business to the scrap metal dealers and coroner.

While the most common fatal is "ran off road into tree (or B-double going the other way)", the most common repairable damage is undoubtedly macropods, probably followed closely by rear enders in town.

John

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Yes. I agree.
My beef is how you managed to get that vehicle registered with that bullbar when others trying to get their Perenties registered with bullbars that comply with the ADR's are being told to remove them, in one case because it was "aggressive".
There is no consistency. It seems personal opinions are replacing law nowdays.

You are not going to get consistency between states, you are in Vic, the OP is in NSW, other folks having issues with perenties may be elsewhere. NSW is the main state that seems to be enforcing the ADRs around bullbars at the moment probably due to a brainfart deep within RMS or the police force.

In my experience in NSW you cannot even expect consistency between RMS offices on matters that would seem to be much more clearly documented than interpretation of the Australian design rules around bullbars.

Regards,
Tote

Doh forgot to quote

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Originally Posted by boa

So you are selective in what you kill, interesting observations. What next take out the feral people in our society?

I've been an advocate for that for years:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Originally Posted by boa

What next take out the feral people in our society?

It would help improve the gene pool.

Originally Posted by Tote

You are not going to get consistency between states, you are in Vic, the OP is in NSW, other folks having issues with perenties may be elsewhere. NSW is the main state that seems to be enforcing the ADRs around bullbars at the moment probably due to a brainfart deep within RMS or the police force.

In my experience in NSW you cannot even expect consistency between RMS offices on matters that would seem to be much more clearly documented than interpretation of the Australian design rules around bullbars.

Regards,
Tote

Try the frustration index when dealing with Qld. Transport. Ask three different QT officers the same question and get four different answers.

There are things you can do to reduce the likelihood of an animal strike.

There are things you can do to reduce the damage to your vehicle in the event of an animal strike.


However, I don't believe there is anything you can do to guarantee no strikes and no damage.

There is still an element of luck. As John's example shows, there isn't much you can do if a kangaroo decides to head butt the side of your almost stationary vehicle.

I had a near miss years ago driving down the Gibraltar Range towards Grafton. On a slow winding section, a kangaroo leapt from the bank above the car, landed on the road just in front of the car and with the next hop disappeared down the embankment on the other side.

A split second later and it would have landed in the middle of the bonnet and a slightly longer split second later and it would have landed on the roof.

I don't care how observant you are, no-one could be expected to see a kangaroo poised to pounce from an embankment higher than the roof of the car. I don't care how many posts your bull bar has, it won't protect the roof of your car from a kangaroo landing from above.

Some of us probably like to think that the reason we haven't hit a kangaroo is because we have perfected the right technique. While technique may help, it won't protect you from bad luck. It is entirely possible for a lucky driver with bad technique to hit fewer roos than an unlucky driver with good technique.

Originally Posted by vnx205

There are things you can do to reduce the likelihood of an animal strike.

There are things you can do to reduce the damage to your vehicle in the event of an animal strike.


However, I don't believe there is anything you can do to guarantee no strikes and no damage.

There is still an element of luck. As John's example shows, there isn't much you can do if a kangaroo decides to head butt the side of your almost stationary vehicle.

I had a near miss years ago driving down the Gibraltar Range towards Grafton. On a slow winding section, a kangaroo leapt from the bank above the car, landed on the road just in front of the car and with the next hop disappeared down the embankment on the other side.

A split second later and it would have landed in the middle of the bonnet and a slightly longer split second later and it would have landed on the roof.

I don't care how observant you are, no-one could be expected to see a kangaroo poised to pounce from an embankment higher than the roof of the car. I don't care how many posts your bull bar has, it won't protect the roof of your car from a kangaroo landing from above.

Some of us probably like to think that the reason we haven't hit a kangaroo is because we have perfected the right technique. While technique may help, it won't protect you from bad luck. It is entirely possible for a lucky driver with bad technique to hit fewer roos than an unlucky driver with good technique.

100%

and that ends that debate