Thread: They'd like to kill us

Craig, who said to kill the Muslims?
Muslims are good people, I have good friends muslims and love peace.
People talk about eliminate the terrorists but the mean by the authorities. No one suggest to become a vigilante.......I hope.

Originally Posted by mikehzz

Fine, have another war over it. It would be a shame to let them sort it out themselves. You aren't worth arguing with if you twist a comment about respecting a whole race/religion into the sum total of respecting acts of beheading. You may as well say all Muslims behead people. I'm saying we butt out and let them sort it out instead of being unwanted, overbearing, intrusive arseholes. We (the West) have a long history of that.

What you said was very clear..


"We shouldn't be forcing the issue and the barbaric acts that happen are their way and should be respected."


If you want to respect their barbaric ways, go right ahead but don't claim I have twisted your words.


As I have posted elsewhere, I look forward to the USA retreating into it's own borders and leaving the world to sort it all out without them..many are so intent on blaming them for every ill of the world.....maybe China, Russia or Saudi with all their oil money, might dip into their public coffers for a change.

Originally Posted by nugge t

As I have posted elsewhere, I look forward to the USA retreating into it's own borders and leaving the world to sort it all out without them..many are so intent on blaming them for every ill of the world.....maybe China, Russia or Saudi with all their oil money, might dip into their public coffers for a change.

A horrible situation for Australia. The US's naval power is, basically, what keeps the sea lanes open for us to move our raw materials to customers around the globe. Our prosperity is linked to US military might. There are countries that will swoop on us once that aegis is removed.

It would be a terrible end rest but I just get so sick and tired and hearing bleeding hearts go on about how bad the western world and the US in particular is, that I would not blame them for a second if they took their ball, went home and told the world to sort it out themselves.

I think the best outcome is if Australian muslims take a stand against this militancy before any terrorist acts are perpetrated in Australia and the inevitable knee jerk reaction follows and innocent muslims are targeted. Hence radicalizing more of them As it stands the average "aussie muslim" probably has more to fear from these fundamentalists than the rest of us. Start attacking innocent muslims and see what the 250 million or so neighbours have to say about it then there's malasia right there too.

I can only find 2 areas of Christian violence happening today(there may be small wars that don't make the media) 1 is the LRA in the CAR the French are currently hunting and fighting them as are the US rewards have been posted for the capture or death of its leader Joseph Kony and the second is also in the CAR where a Muslim minority took power and then lost it as Christian groups fought back they are now taking revenge as is the African way but again both African union and French troops are on the ground trying to stop the violence . that is just has not been seen with Muslim violence until the IS started getting so big. The last really big war that used Christianity as one of its justifications was WW11 and I think most the combatants were Christian against Christian . I hope Christians have learnt from the past but it seem Muslims haven't yet. So why keep saying Christians (and jews) have a lot to answer for?

Not saying we should forget the past but learn from it

Originally Posted by nugge t

As I have posted elsewhere, I look forward to the USA retreating into it's own borders and leaving the world to sort it all out without them..many are so intent on blaming them for every ill of the world......

Hi Nugget,

I understand your point. However the USA is all about the USA first second and third, I don't think they are in any part of the world for someone else's gain, unless it is SECOND to their own.

Just my observation as they seem to act on their own even when consulting the UN results in a vote against the action. Hence the term "coalition of the willing" - willing to do what the USA wants . But as I've said before, I'm glad it's them and not the Japanese but I wish they would stop stirring up the Chinese and including us in their regional 'posturing'.

But as said, I understand your point and it's a fair comment.

Edit: China has their own terrorist muslim problem, uegars or something, I like the way they handle it, allow a certain number of religions and reserve the right to ban any and all if they make trouble sometimes democracy is a bit soft, and dont tell me China's communism is as brutal as the original form...at least criminals are dealt with.

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

I can only find 2 areas of Christian violence happening today(there may be small wars that don't make the media) 1 is the LRA in the CAR the French are currently hunting and fighting them as are the US rewards have been posted for the capture or death of its leader Joseph Kony and the second is also in the CAR where a Muslim minority took power and then lost it as Christian groups fought back they are now taking revenge as is the African way but again both African union and French troops are on the ground trying to stop the violence . that is just has not been seen with Muslim violence until the IS started getting so big. The last really big war that used Christianity as one of its justifications was WW11 and I think most the combatants were Christian against Christian . I hope Christians have learnt from the past but it seem Muslims haven't yet. So why keep saying Christians (and jews) have a lot to answer for?

Not saying we should forget the past but learn from it

Of course, WWII wasn't a Christian vs Christian struggle- it was a Nationalist aggressor and their allies vs nearly everyone else. Politicians will always attempt to use the religious beliefs of their populations to secure support for whatever they want, or don't want, them to do.

The thing is that Islam is a political AND religious power that has clear goals.

Islam Explained in Layman’s Terms
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begin when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States Muslim 0.6%
Australia Muslim 1.5%
Canada Muslim 1.9%
China Muslim 1.8%
Italy Muslim 1.5%
Norway Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%,
they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark Muslim 2%
Germany Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom Muslim 2.7%
Spain Muslim 4%
Thailand Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the
population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France Muslim 8%
Philippines 5%
Sweden Muslim 5%
Switzerland Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago Mus
lim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-*burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:
Guyana Muslim 10%
India Muslim 13.4%
Israel Muslim 16%
Kenya Muslim 10%
Russia Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-*trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militiawarfare, such as in:
Bosnia Muslim 40%
Chad Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non‐conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania Muslim 70%
Malaysia Muslim 60.4%
Qatar Muslim 77..5%
Sudan Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-*run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-*going in:
Bangladesh Muslim 83%
Egypt Muslim 90%
Gaza Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia Muslim 86.1%
Iran Muslim 98%
Iraq Muslim 97%
Jordan Muslim 92%
Morocco Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan Muslim 97%
Palestine Muslim 99%
Syria Muslim 90%
Tajikistan Muslim 90%
Turkey Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates Muslim 96%

100%
will usher in the peace of Dar-*es-*Salaamthe Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia Muslim 100%
Somalia Muslim 100%
Yemen Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these
100%
states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non Muslim religious facilities.

In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses(Muslim private schools). They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22%of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.