Cyclists.

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Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket

So.....

If someone doesn't live their life according the way that that a certain section of the population approve of they should be:

1. Abused
2. Sworn at
3. Hated
4. Run down
5. Murdered

But there is no ignorance or lack of education here....

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Islam? Oops, infraction coming :)

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Originally Posted by loneranger

How do you explain peak bumper to bumper traffic, driver spots a cyclist in their mirror and deliberately moves to block the cycling lane or worse waits until your passing and then moves into you. Most of my road cycling is done in peak traffic with cycle lanes and this is a weekly scenario.

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My post had nothing to do with that scenario. It was about slow moving objects sitting out in normal traffic flow areas and why other roads users might be unhappy about them. If I drove my car at 20kph along a 100kph highway I'm asking for abuse. Nothing to do with cyclists at all.

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Originally Posted by mikehzz

My post had nothing to do with that scenario. It was about slow moving objects sitting out in normal traffic flow areas and why other roads users might be unhappy about them. If I drove my car at 20kph along a 100kph highway I'm asking for abuse. Nothing to do with cyclists at all.

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The point is as a cyclist you cop the abuse regardless of where you ride on the road.

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Originally Posted by mikehzz

My post had nothing to do with that scenario. It was about slow moving objects sitting out in normal traffic flow areas and why other roads users might be unhappy about them. If I drove my car at 20kph along a 100kph highway I'm asking for abuse. Nothing to do with cyclists at all.

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And if you were a farmer walking a tractor and implement along a local 100kph road at 20 or 30 kph that wouldn't be OK?

What about 1909 veteran car. that wouldn't be ok also?

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

And if you were a farmer walking a tractor and implement along a local 100kph road at 20 or 30 kph that wouldn't be OK?

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Farmers have a rotating amber light when on the roads plus as you approach you can tell it is a tractor well in advance.

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Originally Posted by loneranger

In WA you can ride 2 abreast on all roads. Not that it is always wise. Generally I'll only do it if I'm claiming the lane because it is unsafe for cars to try and squeeze past without proper overtaking onto the other side of the road.

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I will make the assumption you are riding recreationally, and don't need to be on that road,aren't you increasing the risk of some texting driver, or plainly in attentive , cleaning you up from either direction. You may be in the right, but also in intensive care, if your lucky.

Whatever happened to the keep as far left as possible rule?

Maybe some roads need to be marked no go for cyclists due to the conditions you describe. Same as other roads don't accommodate caravans, buses or large trucks.

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Originally Posted by loneranger

The point is as a cyclist you cop the abuse regardless of where you ride on the road.

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Well, not from me.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

And if you were a farmer walking a tractor and implement along a local 100kph road at 20 or 30 kph that wouldn't be OK?

What about 1909 veteran car. that wouldn't be ok also?

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Are you saying there is nothing wrong with coming around a corner at 100kph and finding something travelling very slowly in front of you? They have pilot cars and flashing lights for those situations because it's common sense to assume that circumstances dictate that sooner or later there will be the possibility of collisions. What, am I magically going to see or know about the 1909 car around the corner? It has nothing to do with someone's right to be on the road, it's a about the potential danger you are causing either to yourself or others.

A tiny minority of cyclists do the wrong thing and give cyclists generally a bad name. Unfortunately it is the actions of those few that attract attention of some motorists.

A tiny minority of motorists do the wrong thing and give motorists generally a bad name. Unfortunately it is the actions of those few that attract attention of cyclists.

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

When I walk on a road I walk on the footpath, not in the middle of a lane of fast moving vehicles.

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Mostly why you find most cyclists on the road too. I'd rather ride near cars than pedestrians.

I think it's been summed up here pretty well by a few. Cyclists aren't demigods or anything special, they are just normal people how enjoy a particular sport. They just want to get out and have some fun/commute to work or whatever, they aren't there trying to annoy every driver on the road just like most drivers are there just trying to get somewhere. When I'm out riding I do my best to avoid being a road hazard by staying as far clear of the vehicle lane as possible. Unfortunately this is not always possible and 'taking the lane' for a short distance is the safest way to go. I will take bets that 90% of the drivers that passed me yesterday on my 35km ride didn't even notice I was on the road, BUT unfortunately there is a handful of riders and drivers out there that aren't good road users and do the wrong thing. It's just very unfortunate that everyone gets a bad wrap out of the minorities bad manners and lack of respect for others.

Can I ask next time you see a cyclist just show them some respect, they know they are going to come off 2nd best in an accident, they want to show you respect as well.