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As an ex cyclist, due to medical reasons, I can only say that the road today is no place for cyclists.
30 years ago there was scope for riders to enjoy the road with little risk from other road users.
Today the road is only there for motorised traffic, no amount of rules, regulation or public pleas will change this.
It's time that cyclist acknowledge this and restrict their activities to locations that are off the public road network.
There are a few marked shared routes/paths in NSW but mainly they are paths for pedestrians. A rule that cyclists regularly ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Pathways in many areas in SA and VIC are shared usage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
Pedestrian & Cyclist (Skates, Skateboard, Scooter etc).
Notice he said Path, not Footpath...
Only the other week I saw an elderly woman knocked over by a cyclist on a high traffic pedestrian only path right outside a hospital. The emergency department is over 300 metres from the site.
Will the cyclists 3rd party insurance cover the injuries to the woman.
In Victoria, only paths that are signposted thus:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Which are not that common.
Of note:
Quote:
REG 242
Travelling in or on a wheeled recreational device or toy on a footpath or shared path (1) A person travelling in or on a wheeled recreational device or wheeled toy on a footpath or shared path must?
(a) keep to the left of the footpath or shared path unless it is impracticable to do so; and
(b) give way to any pedestrian (except a person travelling in or on a wheeled recreational device or wheeled toy) who is on the footpath or shared path.
Penalty: 2 penalty units.
Notes
1 "Footpath "is defined in the dictionary.
2 For this rule, "give way" means the person must slow down and, if necessary, stop to avoid a collision'see the definition in the dictionary.
3 Bicycle riders on footpaths and shared paths must give way to persons travelling in or on wheeled recreational devices or toys, as well as other pedestrians'see rule 250(2).
r. 242
(2) A shared path is an area open to the public (except a separated footpath) that is designated for, or has as one of its main uses, use by both the riders of bicycles and pedestrians, and includes a length of path for use by both bicycles and pedestrians beginning at a shared path sign or shared path road marking and ending at the nearest of the following?
(a) an end shared path sign or end shared path road marking;
(b) a no bicycles sign or no bicycles road marking;
(c) a bicycle path sign or bicycle path road marking;
(d) a road (except a road related area);
(e) the end of the path.
Note
Bicycle and no bicycles road marking are defined in the dictionary, road related area is defined in rule 13 , and bicycle path road marking and separated footpath are defined in rule 239.
So, in gossamers example, the pedestrian did nothing wrong and gossamer performed the correct course of action to avoid a collision by cycling in the grass.Quote:
REG 250
Riding on a footpath or shared path (1) The rider of a bicycle who is 12 years old or older must not ride on a footpath except in the circumstances specified under subrule (1A).
Penalty: 3 penalty units.
Note
]Footpath is defined in the dictionary.
(1A) For the purposes of subrule (1), the circumstances in which the rider of a bicycle who is 12 years old or older may ride on a footpath are as follows—
(a) the rider of the bicycle is 18 years old or older and is accompanying a child under 12 years of age who is riding a bicycle on the footpath and the child is under the rider's supervision; or
(b) the rider of thebicycle is 12 years old or older and—
(i) has a certificate signed by a registered medical practitioner; and
(ii) the certificate states that the rider has a physical or intellectual disability which makes it undesirable, impracticable or inexpedient for the rider to ride on the road; and
(iii) the rider is complying with the conditions (if any) stated on the certificate; and
(iv) if the disability is of a temporary nature, the certificate contains an expiry date and has not expired; and
(v) the rider is carrying the certificate; and
Rule 250
(1A)(b)(vi) amended by S.R. No. 146/2014 rule 18(a).
(vi) the rider produces the certificate when requested to do so by a police officer or authorised person; or
Rule 250
(1A)(c) inserted by S.R. No. 146/2014 rule 18(b).
(c) the rider of the bicycle is a postal worker who is riding the bicycle in the course of his or her duties as a postal worker.
(2) The rider of a bicycle riding on a footpath or shared path must—
(a) keep to the left of the footpath or shared path unless it is impracticable to do so; and
r. 250
(b) give way to any pedestrian on the footpath or shared path.
Penalty: 3 penalty units.
Well done. See. It's not so hard.
In WA almost all paths are 'dual use' paths. They have bicycles and walkers painted on them as well as 'keep left'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
There are more altercations between cyclists than there are between cyclists and pedestrians. Here we have more of an issue of cars running over pedestrians especially those who step out into the traffic whilst drunk. It's got to the point that there are posters up with safety messages that say "Don't let a mate walk home drunk".
we got TV ads here with that messageQuote:
Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket
Maybe we should licence them for their own good. And if they rack up too many infringements take away their ability to walk :wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Oops hang on that didn't quite sound how I meant it to! :angel:
No walking over 0.05, sounds good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket
No walking whilst on the mobile phone or i device, even better.
I acknowledge there are some good riders and there are some bad riders and likewise there are some good drivers and bad drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peteren
People just need to show respect for one another. Not a difficult thing to do I would think.
Why is the road only for motorised traffic? Because drivers are hopeless?
I'm a motorist and a cyclist and I'm more than happy to coexist.
Regards
Andrew
I notice the WA Premier has rejected the 1 metre rule for motorists to avoid cyclists being proposed by the WA Greens!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket
how will that stop cyclists from being proposed by the WA greens?