Thread: Cyclists.

Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket

BTW been meaning to say this for a while - lycra is not a fashion statement. It's just something you wear coz you get fed up with getting a sore butt.

When you first start riding you really don't want to wear it so you don't and then suffer for it. Then you go to the next step which is wearing shorts over the lycra so no-one can see you wearing it. Then you realise that it's just too hot and impractical so you concede and resign yourself to looking stupid every time you get on your bike.

The shirts aren't lycra - they're that wicking material that most sports shirts are made out of. Lyrca shirts would be really uncomfortable. I don't think they make them anymore - never seen them in the shops. Most of them are bright so you can be seen and they have pockets to stash food etc.

When we have 'ride to work breakfasts' at work the rule is no lycra allowed. Everyone's hits the showers and dresses in work clothes first before walking to the cafe.

I really don't get where the 'fashion' myth comes into it. The only other time I go out looking that ridiculous is when I go kayak fishing because of all the sun protective gear - again not a fashion statement.

I bought a sprung gell seat. Better than having to change when I want a coffee.

Originally Posted by Bernd VonCrashen

What about better licensing for all road users, including a new license refresher course. I see to many people who have their license and drive 2wd, 4wd or 1wd and are unable to drive in a fashion to ensure the safety of others, consideration of others or even show ability using the road. Most are ignorant of even keeping up to date with changes in rules and situations (wet/dry). Motorists and cyclists need to accept both share the road. SHARE! Too many are unable to accept that.

What about a pedestrian license? Seriously it is becoming like a debate about people who use umbrellas undercover during rain. Yeah they use it for being out there in the rain or just enjoying themselves, but do they need it under cover? Far beyond the point, but where do we stop. Are you really that special on the road or under cover? It rains! People use the road and or walk to traverse along with footpaths!

Before we had cars we had horses and legs, times change, accept it? Well before that no umbrellas either?

Planes had propellers, now they have jets, do pilots complain?

I sense your sarcasm.
Yes. If cyclists don't need licenses then anyone should be able to drive a triple road train through Sydney CBD without any formal training or knowledge of road rules.
The vehicles don't need to be registered or have any form of insurance.
Or so some will lead us to believe.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I bought a sprung gell seat. Better than having to change when I want a coffee.

Mick are you saying you go for a ride and then stop for coffee? How 'cyclist' of you!

FWIW I've never understood the cycling / coffee thing. I just ride to work.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Same goes for motorists. A resource stopped me and checked my license this afternoon.

Likewise, I have a HV endorsement on my license which is in my pocket as I drive. Yep, it doesn't identify me unless I am stopped and asked to produce my license. What are you saying? We should do away with licenses and anyone can drive/ride any vehicle they want?

You should see the size of the numbers and letters on my bike rack plate. They're small and yet identifiable.

My point being that you don't need a license for the police to stop you on a bike. The police can stop you for breaking the law regardless of whether you are a pedestrian, cyclist or motorist. Having a license doesn't change that.

The real issue I see with the argument that posters are making regarding licenses is that police are not enforcing the law. Cyclists don't need a license for the police to enforce the road laws and it goes against your driver's license if you get pinged on your bike anyway which for most cyclists would be a greater penalty than against a cycle license.

In my view the argument about registering cyclists is just a smokescreen. Personally, in Perth I would be happy to see a police presence on the bike paths enforcing the law on some of the lunatics out there. If they want to setup at some of the intersections in Perth good on them but they'll be so busy writing tickets for all the jaywalkers they won't have time to bother about the odd cyclist.

Originally Posted by Pocket Rocket

Mick are you saying you go for a ride and then stop for coffee? How 'cyclist' of you!

FWIW I've never understood the cycling / coffee thing. I just ride to work.

It's worse than that. I drive to the car park, cycle to the cafe, cycle to the car park, then drive home.
A nice way to spend a Sunday morning.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I bought a sprung gell seat. Better than having to change when I want a coffee.

Are you a coffee shop cyclist? The worst kind!!!

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

It's worse than that. I drive to the car park, cycle to the cafe, cycle to the car park, then drive home.
A nice way to spend a Sunday morning.

Bahahahahaha

ROLFL

On a serious note do you have a Defender? If so how do you carry your bike?

Thanks Mick for pointing out my little sarcasm / not well brought up point ( I am not the best in discussion meets what I am trying to relay). We all need to be very wary of everyone and everything on the road. I left out the bigger vehicles for a point as not many have even looked at the issue of that or the size comparison between vehicles. They have a lot to deal with and it comes down to size and also maneuverability they are really in a bad position with respects to other road users. They have to deal with anything of a lesser size with them and yet many don't give them the respect they need on the road to control their vehicle while trying to avoid accidents or give them the room to move. Cyclists or even motor bike riders, as they are small and "can" be nimble are also not protected as the car is the like "bike" compared to a larger vehicle like a truck or bigger.

Just like a truck or a car, regardless of size be very wary of whats on the road and respect other people out there. Some people are very good drivers/riders some are very bad drivers/riders Just wish everyone can be safe and give everyone respect to their abilities.